Message from @n-
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as much as I'd be interested in hearing about such a tragedy, unless the killer was Solid Snake or Jack the Ripper, I don't think we're hearing much about a stabbing
exactly
but some person just calls in gun shots at a school and it makes the news (even if there is no evidence there actually was a shot fired)
like i said, stabbings are quieter, and people also think less lethal.
Unless you are in china.
true
then you get mass stabbings of like 100 people
but in china that is someone just accidently sneezing while holding a knife they are so densely populated.
lol
when it comes to shooters one way think of it is this. If a madman can't find a gun then he'll find a knife of not that then poison, making a bomb, acid his bare hands. The weapons are the methods the mindset is what's most lethal.
exactly
i mean, look at the UK, the prized apple of gun control advocates. They still have problems with homicides and seem to now include basically any lawn care equipment as "deadly weapons". Which, to an extent, they can be, but usually its deadly to the operator because they were careless.
if they ban guns, this is the next target: https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/sei_563403.jpg?w=748&h=561&crop=1
and that still doesn't address the problem
oi you got a license for that potato peeler?
@Adreyu people's arguments with that is that the killer would have to try a lot harder to kill that many people with knife or poison vs a gun you can just buy or steal
tbh I just point people to cars
that is a real fucking tweet from a police department
these tools can harm as well if ends up in wrong hands. *looks at my hands. you mean these tools?
the pro-gun control people call this argument a slippery slope while pointing to the country that proves its not a fallacy.
I wonder what life in New Zealand is like though
not too long ago I saw a video where it's stated they can legally own machine guns, but there's no mass murder there
they have recently been coming out more and more as ban all guns, not some guns (while saying its not all guns... just semi autos which is 95% of all guns sold these days, even a fucking revolver counts. at least the kind that doesn't require cocking the hammer), then say "it will just go to knifes" is slipper slope while point to the UK.....
funny thing is people who intend to do bad shit don't give a fuck
I saw a vid of a guy robbing a store with a makeshift spear
exactly.
the people who will be the most affected by gun control will be law abiding citizens. and not just any law abiding citizen, the law abiding citizens have stats behind them proving to be the MOST law abiding. the least likely to do any kind of crime.
even if we do that, I wonder how it is people expect things to improve
i'd say a bigger problem with guns in america is the culture of gun ignorance.
it leads to adults being afraid of them and kids not understanding them
kids think they are toys, parents pretend they don't exist
no I mean even if we just all unanimously decided, ok, fuck it, guns are the problem, get rid of them
do they think tomorrow morning is better..?
like ok there's no more school shootings, now you just made people work harder on making a good enough bomb or focus on killing the mother fuckers they actually do want dead
"I kill u and den I die" is still a valid game without a gun
you know, murder is a problem. lets make it illegal
Death is also a huge problem lets make that illegal too!
A Slippery Slope is not always a fallacy! If a proposed policy has limits based on principal it is not a fallacy, if the limits are arbitrary it is. The difference is that you can not use the same argument to expand a policy that is based on principal without changing the argument in some way. In case of gun laws: „ban all guns, they have no use other than killing“ is a principled argument that leads to a policy that can not be expanded without changing the argument. „Ban guns that are unnecessary deadly“ is not based on principal but on arbitrary characteristics of guns and can be reused again and again with other characteristics.