Message from @n-

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2018-05-09 22:03:17 UTC  

if you however take a sample of 1000 people, and take the average of their IQ scores, you get an average to work with, and can then set categories

2018-05-09 22:03:17 UTC  

also how do you separate IQ from simply not knowing something, being bored, etc.

2018-05-09 22:03:41 UTC  

you do it by taking larger samples, so you try to eliminate most outlying variables

2018-05-09 22:03:53 UTC  

for example, if I remember right, one of the important qualities of an IQ test is how fast you complete it

2018-05-09 22:04:01 UTC  

depends on the test

2018-05-09 22:04:05 UTC  

could be

2018-05-09 22:04:17 UTC  

there are people who test, who are good at taking tests or who just have that knowledge, like for example if you don't know something just skip it immediately go to the next thing, don't spend 5 years on it

2018-05-09 22:04:21 UTC  

Speed, Answers correct, and the age of the person

2018-05-09 22:04:43 UTC  

myself for example, I'll finish it until I have an answer and I might even check over it if I was unsure

2018-05-09 22:05:41 UTC  

but doing that would make for a lower score, ie. it's more intelligent to just skip it, come back later, then give your best guess rather than trying to figure it out then and there

2018-05-09 22:06:15 UTC  

if you're just there taking a test though, are you really thinking about how to absolutely crush this test into the dirt?

2018-05-09 22:07:05 UTC  

that's just that one aspect. there's other elements, too (which I think have their own ways of being handled). ex. those people who freeze when it comes to taking tests

2018-05-09 22:07:23 UTC  

the data shows that the more intelligent you are the more likely it is you will crush a test

2018-05-09 22:07:35 UTC  

pretty much every competence related task is "g loaded"

2018-05-09 22:08:03 UTC  

which means higher in general intelligence people complete it better/faster

2018-05-09 22:08:17 UTC  

general intelligence is measured with an IQ test

2018-05-09 22:08:46 UTC  

thats why its an intelligence quoefficient

2018-05-09 22:09:11 UTC  

also I wonder things like the level of their general intelligence vs being motivated, or working with things they're intimately familiar with

2018-05-09 22:09:37 UTC  

yes, but this is why you have to take large samples

2018-05-09 22:10:00 UTC  

if 1/10 people are affected by it, then you can still say with 90% confidence the rest aren't

2018-05-09 22:10:30 UTC  

well, I didn't mean that in terms of how it affects general IQ, but rather.. if you accounted for those elements as if they were a separate IQ, what would the differences between those two scores be

2018-05-09 22:10:48 UTC  

per individual, massive

2018-05-09 22:10:59 UTC  

for a sample size, it becomes less significant

2018-05-09 22:11:22 UTC  

the larger your average, the less influence a single outlier has

2018-05-09 22:11:56 UTC  

i mean its the "outlying statistic" argument

If 1 person earns 1,000,000 dollar per month
and 1,000,000 people earn 1 dollar per month,

The average of the 1,000,001 sample you took will be just above 1

2018-05-09 22:14:10 UTC  

this is why sample sizes absolutely matter

2018-05-09 22:14:32 UTC  

cuz if you have a sample of 2 people

1 person earns 1,000,000
1 person earns 0

The "average" person earns 500,000

2018-05-09 22:16:15 UTC  

im off to bed gn

2018-05-09 22:16:24 UTC  

not getting enough sleep decreases IQ!

2018-05-09 22:21:23 UTC  

unless my math is wrong, in your first example the answer would be pretty much 2

2018-05-09 22:22:23 UTC  

well yeah, 1.999998 or something

2018-05-09 22:22:40 UTC  

that double what most people would have

2018-05-09 22:22:53 UTC  

its 0:21 at night here i cba to go specific, i was making a broad example of how sample sizes affect the "average"

2018-05-09 22:23:03 UTC  

you be better off with a modal average in that situation

2018-05-09 22:23:33 UTC  

ah, only 23:23 here 😛

2018-05-09 22:27:08 UTC  

but my original point way in the start was that i dont see the sense in "race iq" being so touchy, but thats because i don't have a motive behind it.

If there is no difference in race IQ, then great, its proven and nothing more to talk about
If there IS a difference, then meh who cares anyway because they're still human, and the average doesn't apply to the individual

My problem is that the people who claim there is no correlation are vermently opposed to proving their claim

2018-05-09 22:27:26 UTC  

so a few days ago they spot the ISIS leader baghdadi ... and now they capture 5 ISIS commanders

2018-05-09 22:27:35 UTC  

gud

2018-05-09 22:28:29 UTC  

also, trump is related to Everquest now?

srsly, am i going insane? 😛