i made a MRA keyring.

@Abbysol yes, laser cut

My main problem would be aquiring a decent source of acrylic and regular access to a laser cutter. That and I am in new zealand, so shipping is expensive. Thanks for the compliment though!

also I just noticed the center is slightly misaligned. Darn

I like this

this is,good

good job

And of course most feminists are completely normal and good people. So a fraction of a fraction.

Correct

feminism is for women

Not because they oppose men's advocacy though

Because MRAs are sexist AFATK

And why?

That is the real question

That they do these things is not doubted

but to say it is because they oppose equality is at best misguided

It does not

I never said it does

but it changes how we can judge them on it

and how we can solve the problem

They do not oppose equality

They oppose groups that supposedly fight for equality

that is different than deliberately opposing all equality

Yes

Same with the MRM

correct

r/menslib does it fairly well

Yes I have. I actually prefer it to r/mensrights right now

some great discussions going on there

Now

give an example of it dismissing genuine problems

which is a genuine thing?

Yeppers. You have a problem with educating people about consent?

@InsaneCaterpilla that is not what it is. It is about the form of rape known as "misinformed belief in consent". Not deliberate rape. And while it should be aimed more at both genders, the current meme around rape makes that challenging

@Rai quite a few feminists are good with mens advocates when they understand what it is. I have changed a few minds myself, I would know

@InsaneCaterpilla http://criminalnotebook.ca/index.php/Honest_But_Mistaken_Belief_in_Consent

@Rai so we need to talk more to these "big glamorous feminists"

First part is unfortunately true, and the second part is also unfortunately true

Unfortunately true also

I gotta roll for now, see yall later

how so @lazzzycarrot(30) / senpai(40)

define "almost never"

okayish

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This is a meme now

Aww

#killallmen is on the most part not real content, and that video is discrimination not misandry.

https://twitter.com/pwnned__lol

So

what do we all think of this particular chap?

His YT channel seems a little off

and being on a FBI watchlist is rather interesting

That is an insane strawman and not representative of any real feminist.

Chanty Binx does not seem to have such a bad worldview really. Hardly the worst feminist because she used some rude words.

Yes

that would lead to quick bans

I can

i am a sub there

It would take a lot of work to do so. Feminists (and to that extension menslibbers) engage in so much debate that they are generally tired of it.

r/masculism

Heyo @Nicholas Ramsey, good to see you here

we now have 106 accounts

@blueorange22 Hello there Blue. Good to see you again.

@blueorange22 I would like to make a full apology about the incident relating to MRACentral and the @centralMRA twitter account earlier this year. I have regretted that incident since it first happened, and it is the reason that I avoid twitter in general now. I know that my apology can never make up for the lasting impact my actions had on you, @turbulance4, and @James.

I respect your decision to ban me from the MRACentral discord and change the passwords on the various accounts, however I ask that you do not let past events affect our relationship today in this community.

Don't forget to post on https://www.mhraconnect.com/

There should be less stigma associated with all mental disorders and seeking help

^

I hope so

As long as the bans are being done properly, that sounds fine by me

Something happened with bans?

Dang, and discord drama had only just settled down in one of my other servers

I guess there is no sleep for the tired

@InsaneCaterpilla it is midnight for me

personal touch

Personally I am a little cautious about Tier 2 Rule 3. Due to some recent behaviour by the moderation team (and a not insignificant amount of experience with other servers) I feel that the term "trolling" is problematically nebulous and would require special attention to determine whether it is genuinely a malicious act or merely a person who likes to debate

@Abbysol agreed. No single-mod bans would work

Yeah

Tier 3 is big ticket

unlikely it will happen tho

but ya never know

👏

i wish to fly tiny rc helicopters over it

Okay, so first off, I just want to make this clear that it is the same account. I just changed the name because I was bored of it.

Now, I respect your belief that nobody with an educated view on the MRM can compare them to feminists. However, I dispute your belief on the basis that your worldview is solidly MRA, whereas mine is much more centered in between MRAs and feminists.

I do concur with you that certain feminist communities (such as r/askfeminists) have been polluted by moderators that power trip and have extremely strong beliefs.

However, I do not see many "blatant lies" about the MRM and its associates

Most claims made about the movement have a basis in reality

Would you perhaps care to provide some examples so that I may evaluate them?

I would not say that that is a claim about MRAs as much as a claim about society. If some people on r/askfeminists do genuinely believe that, then I feel that they need to take the time to better educate themselves (something I think everyone should do regardless)

Right, so blue. First of all, it is definitely a low effort/antagonistic post. That is one of the most common questions on that sub, and it keeps getting asked.

Also, can you slow down please? I am having a hard time keeping up

'"Given that you posted the same thing on MR, and are now discussing our answers over there, I don’t have much credence in this being a “good faith” post. You are on the thinnest of all possible ice."
This one makes sense. It is very similar to quite a lot of "hur dur look at these stupid people" posts you see everywhere.

Yes, that is fast for me mate. Not the fastest of typers here.

So the thing is, the question may have been relevant at first but it keeps getting asked. The example you linked is only 3 days old.

Because the OP is "discussing" the answers in a Q&A thread in a community that is very clearly in opposition to the first group. And as it is asking a question about the POV of a specific group, it is not really something that you can get a balanced view of.

If we could just refrain from bold and brash claims for the time being, that would be great.

However, this particular thread is not existing in a vacuum chamber. There is a long history of negative and abusive behavior between the two groups. The only reason for one to post such a link is for the group being discussed to see criticisms

@blueorange22 It is not nessecarily the positions of MRAs that are hateful, but rather the actions. I have read too many stories of feminists being harassed by self professed MRAs across the web.

And other times it is rape and death threats @Men Are Human

The problem on both sides is this: Each tries to paint the lowest common denominator of the opposing group as the average. Feminists are all painted as misandrist bigots, and MRAs are all painted as rape apologists

in an alternate world where MRAs had the power, no doubt the same thing would be shown