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There are studies suggesting that this is true

I believe it has something to do with how men and women think and view the world

Women approach something by looking at it as a whole. Parts only contribute to the whole, and only the whole is assessed

Men like to break bigger things into parts

Breaking big concepts into parts is crucial to fields like math/science, where the questions being answered don't have an easy solution you can just observe. You can't solve problems in these fields without first breaking them into stages, or steps, or testable metrics

For fields studying language and society, linguistics anthropology psychology etc., The whole is ultimately the only thing that matters. The whole language is how we communicate. The whole culture defines the society. The whole brain is how we think

Putting parts together into a whole is a big deal in those fields

That's why women have a tendency to take these kinds of jobs, while men take jobs that involve breaking big, complex questions into parts

Does that help, @Fred?

Hey

@Silver_The_Bard Actually, studies show women do better in school than men. How much of this is due to biased teachers and department standards varies

But I'd say most of it can be chalked up to the teaching style used today. Students get lectured at and try their best to remember it and regurgitate it on an exam, which is not quite how it was even one generation ago. Women are better at school as it is today

It could also be because there are more services, scholarships etc. designed to help women, as well as more women being admitted into college in general equating to more chances for success

Another factor, like I mentioned, is department standards

Liberal arts departments like psychology give extra credit in their courses more often, while STEM, business, and other majors men would do better in hardly ever give extra credit

Like I said, bias from instructors plays a role. The bias gets worse if the teacher is female

No, the actual style is more suited to women

Bias plays a role, but it's not the only factor

Men tend to enjoy learning through experience

The number of degrees that employ this type of learning is very low

Yes, I agree, but I also think that many of the factors need to be addressed

Protocols need to be put in place to reduce bias

Other methods of learning need to be incorporated into the education system

More services need to help men, or just everyone neutrally

And more men need to be admitted. Though that might be fixed by fixing the above

Yeah, misdiagnosis of ADHD for just ordinary boyish behavior is a huge problem

The real problem lies with the education system

We need to bring back recess and allow more experiential learning in schools among other things

@Silver_The_Bard Women aren't evil, just feminists seeking to inject their ideology into completely unrelated fields

I'm sure there are plenty of non-feminist women in the humanities and many other fields

Indeed, but I still feel that feminists in general are misguided but I'll leave that for another debate

Also, some humanities fields aren't just about the background of humanity or society

Psychology in particular covers the human mind and behavior in general

It's just as applicable today as it is to many years ago

The definition of feminism in the dictionary is as follows:

1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes

2 : organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests

Definition 1 seems harmless enough, but definition 2 makes it clear that this is a women's movement

Their argument is equality, but the only care about women

Which normally would be fine, provided men get their own movement

Problem is feminism fights against that

There's plenty of documented examples of feminism organizing against men's concerns when it conflicts with their agenda

Instead of working with us, they try to shut us out of the discussion

Sometimes violently

@InsaneCaterpilla's logic is sound, but just to break down the argument into simple points that can be understood:

1) Feminism only cares about women while arguing for equality, by definition

2) The MRM primarily cares about men while arguing for equality, by definition

3) Only feminism has tried to shut the MRM out of the discussion. We've been trying to work with them for years

r/menslib dismisses genuine problems men face in society

They're an arm of feminism

4) A pluralistic society involves interest groups like feminism and the MRA working together to shape policy, and by the compromises made, society is defined by the collective self-interest of the people through groups representing them

At this point it should be obvious that when feminism refuses to work with us that they are against the supposed "equality" they argue for

@PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS In my experience it's always the rank-and-file feminists that are fine with the MRM, even the segment that's split away from feminism

Meanwhile, the ones with big, glamorous positions in interest groups, aka the ones that actually matter when it comes to shaping policy, are almost 100% against us

@InsaneCaterpilla It's the downside of a system like the one we have now. Corrupt people care more about funding than actually solving the issues they took the job for in the first place

You can't determine for yourself at 6 years old what gender you belong as

You literally can't

Like when I was that age, I jokingly wore my blanket as a dress and said I was a pretty girl

It was a big joke

God knows what would have happened to me if I was born today

Like when you reach sexual maturity, maybe

But for Christ sakes, the kid's hormones haven't even kicked in yet

Like at least wait until 12-13

It honestly just makes me sick

Like, words can't really describe exactly how this story makes me feel

The best response is that men and women are not collectives

Even if men are hurting men or women are hurting women, this does not stop it from being a men's or women's issue, respectively

It also doesn't stop it from being a serious problem that needs to be addressed

And while problems faced by gay men, lesbian women, and bisexual women are all real

Given limited public funding, priority should be given to the problems facing the most people, in this case gay men

How does that sound? @Silver_The_Bard

Honestly, we should do one of those civil disobedience things where every man paying alimony, child support, or spousal support should just stop paying and accept the consequences

And then just check in on how the women and their children are doing, since obviously they still have jobs and are making money

Would be a great wake-up call

Honestly, we should do one of those civil disobedience things where every man paying alimony, child support, or spousal support should just stop paying and accept the consequences
And then just check in on how the women and their children are doing, since obviously they still have jobs and are making money
Would be a great wake-up call

Only thing to work out is how we move our money somewhere the government can't take it

Only thing to work out is how we move our money somewhere the government can't take it

I figured it was more an activism thing 🤷

Great, I will. Just figured I should finish the thought

Actually, I was thinking about it last night, and I've got a perfect way to make it work

Just have everyone go overseas, and then stop paying

Make the government try to extradite every last one of them

That would definitely get some attention

They'd seize them if they stayed here too

And honestly, I have some steps. Sell all your property, move all your money to a foreign bank account, and then leave

I honestly feel like more people would do it that way

I mean who genuinely wants to lose all their assets, have their wages garnished, face tens of thousands in debt, and go to jail?

We can at least try to make it hard for the government to get anything out of it

Also, if you hit the government in the wallet, which what I'm describing definitely will, that'll be taken more seriously

You know how much it costs to extradite every last person paying child support or alimony in the US?

You've gotta go through the legal procedure and pay to have them flown back

and then put them in jail

For every single one of them

The costs would be monumental

I imagine the government wouldn't even do it. The costs would probably outweigh the benefit of seizing a bunch of poor people's bank accounts

I'm not rich, but I bet I could find someone who could assist in funding people who can't afford a plane ticket and a few months' rent

Plane tickets aren't so expensive these days either, so if you go somewhere else and get a job there, I bet you'd be fine

If they're capable of surviving here, they can probably survive somewhere else in the world. If not, the way I see it, we're giving them a chance to stick it to the people who put them there and give them some help on the side. It's not just going to be pitifully poor people doing this either. Middle class people who aren't doing hot because of payments could probably also participate. And all of this is assuming that there's not enough funding to make this last for years

Honestly, just one year is probably enough

To really drive home a point