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So, anyone did anything for international men's day?

I worked and 11 hour day, as I should.

That is a long one.

Tis

Good thing IMD is during fall.

Hit high 40’s on Monday

Is that american 40 or earth 40?

Murica

so 0-10 celsius

that is cold

Yeah

It’s in the 30s-40s in the south

It’s gross

It’s was glorious, I love cold weather.

We aren’t used to the cold, lol

It’s always hot as hell here

Lol I was hitting 30s (90-100f) where I was

Where is everyone from?

Mississippi

Aotearoa

you?

Tennessee

@masonay0un eey

But I’m from California

I recently moved here

So many muricans

Why on earth would you make a move like that?

Family/work?

Family mainly

Gotcha

And it was a good excuse to finally leave CA

Let’s move this to <#515244964083531825>

What is a safe to talk about without making someone annoyed men's rights issue?

MGM

Okay thank you

If someone is annoyed by that, then they’ve got issues.

I've had a few Facebook arguments that say otherwise. If you talking to a older parent who already snipped get kids, it's going to be rather difficult to get them recognize they did something wrong.

What is mgm?

Circumcision but there might be more about it

Oh ok thanks

Male Genital Mutilation is sadly an issue that is not taken seriously by a lot of people. British TV has even had women joking about it (and worse things, like complete genital amputation).

I hope in the future we will see a move to ban this horrific practice. It is NOT normal to want to cut off part of your child.

The laughter when a man gets his genitals amputated always makes me furious and afraid for where society is going. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUna51rI_eQ

Most of us have probably already seen that, but I watch it about once a year to remind myself what we are fighting. That's not even the only show that had to launch a (sniggering) apology about women giggling because this woman castrated her husband and nearly killed him.

@Skellious you are so right. It is sick.

There was a thing about teaching circumcision written by a nurse on the Reddit, and they literally don't care how much pain the boy is in. Or how bad they screw up his dick.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/a00qhb/a_man_begging_his_wife_to_go_easy_on_him_in/?utm_source=reddit-android

Look at all the people just flat out assuming he beat and abused her from one photo....

"If he’s begging her forgiveness we don’t know what he did. She could be in the right." Is correct. It's not really right for us to speculate either way

I don't think the post is meant to illustrate he's not guilty of something during the marriage, only to show that people assume he is guilty

@turbulance4 read a bit further down.

From one photo they get everything from black eyes covered by sunglasses to a lifetime of abuse. I'm not even saying it isn't true - only that it's a whopping assumption and that she could just as easily be the abuser. Only they downvote everyone who even says that it's an assumption.

Isn't it that in most abusive relations that both partners are at fault? that violence reciprocates violence?

AFAIK yes

A lot of times violence is mutual

Yup

Honestly, we should do one of those civil disobedience things where every man paying alimony, child support, or spousal support should just stop paying and accept the consequences
And then just check in on how the women and their children are doing, since obviously they still have jobs and are making money
Would be a great wake-up call

Only thing to work out is how we move our money somewhere the government can't take it

Violence is almost never one sided in a relationship

how so @lazzzycarrot(30) / senpai(40)

define "almost never"

I think the civil disobedience thing is a great idea. Maybe call it 'Men on Strike' or 'Slaves to Divorce' or something.

Actually, I was thinking about it last night, and I've got a perfect way to make it work

Just have everyone go overseas, and then stop paying

Make the government try to extradite every last one of them

That would definitely get some attention

How do you figure that those paying child support from poor backgrounds are able to afford flights or travel when all their money is taken directly out of their pay cheque.

Many wouldn't go and be apart from whatever limited access to their children gives them.

The government would also seize whatever assets they may leave behind.

Nowhere near enough people would ever do it.

They'd seize them if they stayed here too

In all cases? No, they'd only seize those that couldn't pay, they wouldn't seize when they just pay unreasonable amounts but can pay it

And honestly, I have some steps. Sell all your property, move all your money to a foreign bank account, and then leave

I honestly feel like more people would do it that way

I mean who genuinely wants to lose all their assets, have their wages garnished, face tens of thousands in debt, and go to jail?

We can at least try to make it hard for the government to get anything out of it

Once they are extradited, all of that will happen, where it may not happen otherwise.

You might get some people to do this but the monumental task if getting them all to do it at the same time is unrealistic

Also, if you hit the government in the wallet, which what I'm describing definitely will, that'll be taken more seriously

You know how much it costs to extradite every last person paying child support or alimony in the US?

You've gotta go through the legal procedure and pay to have them flown back

and then put them in jail

For every single one of them

The costs would be monumental

I imagine the government wouldn't even do it. The costs would probably outweigh the benefit of seizing a bunch of poor people's bank accounts

Who's gonna pay for the poor people to leave the country and the costs of living in another one? You?

I'm not rich, but I bet I could find someone who could assist in funding people who can't afford a plane ticket and a few months' rent

Plane tickets aren't so expensive these days either, so if you go somewhere else and get a job there, I bet you'd be fine

How would it only be a few months though, if they're poor they may not have marketable job skills, in a new country they have no legal right to work in meaning they'll probably be working below minimum wage if they do find employment there. It'll be an on going cost to try and support them

If they're capable of surviving here, they can probably survive somewhere else in the world. If not, the way I see it, we're giving them a chance to stick it to the people who put them there and give them some help on the side. It's not just going to be pitifully poor people doing this either. Middle class people who aren't doing hot because of payments could probably also participate. And all of this is assuming that there's not enough funding to make this last for years

Honestly, just one year is probably enough

To really drive home a point

If there's any political experts out there who can figure out how long it'll take to get the necessary changes made to end alimony and pardon these people, message me

My guess is actually more like 4 years

How do you plan to convince people to do this? It would be a massive disruption of their lives... I'm sorry, I reallyndont see this ever happening

Civil disobedience is exactly that

I mean Ghandi got people to starve themselves in protest

If it matters enough to them, they'll do it. And from how I'm planning this, these people will be doing a lot better than starving

And honestly, this is a big issue

Alimony and child support literally enslave innocent men

I think that's worth a little hardship if it means we can finally get rid of it completely

I mean, do you really think the better alternative is letting people stay in their home countries, and having their wages garnished, debts amassing, and having them thrown in jail?