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allo

more people is good

Thanks for joining guys!

good to be here

well that was more effort than it should have been: I can speak now

how many accounts Gen

Three. I forgot which disposable email the first one used, so since you apparently can't login by just username (silliness) I figured I'd grab a new one, bu then mailinator refused to recieve the verification emails...

RiP

why disposable

Because discord doesn't need my real email

fair

So the one with the anime picture (spark...) was the original, then "genk" is the one that I couldn't verify, and now this one works

welp, at least it works now

so... three of us now

Well it *is* a new channel

so

yall,doin anythin for tomorrow?

TBH, I'm not yet the sort of person who really recognizes a day for men. It is sorta like black history month (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s). If/when I get more involved then keyboard analysis it'll be more important because then that'll be an excuse to actually get boots doing whatever.

Let me know if you need any new channels, BTW.

how about a #activism and a #debate

oh, and perhaps a #newbies

Might want to get more members first. Otherwise we'd have more channels than members. 😃

we already have an equal number.

@asparkofpyrokravte and @sparkofpyrokravte are the same person as @asparkofpyrokravte

Yeah, they are fragments of my failures.

Maybe we wil get @Men Are Human to kick them

Eh, they are offline and will never be online, so having excess users there isn't unlike any other server.

hello, man of ducks

Can you confirm which account you want kicked?

Hey @FaggyJewLeaf! Welcome!

@Men Are Human So how's the site going, anything you need?

Just finishing another article. If you'd like to do an article or tell me about something that would make a good quote just let me know. There's an article about education I'm after but any topic is fine

The education article would just have to use this as a starting point, but would be otherwise up to you: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9xrkd0/boys_left_to_fail_at_school_because_attempts_to/?utm_source=reddit-android

Welcome @Casey !

Thanks!

Should be some more people along soon! Any good Reddit posts you'd like to discuss?

Don't worry. Just setting up a bot to post Reddit updates

Welcome @adrianowerneck !

Hello there

Anything interesting going on at the moment? :)

Hey, you two!

So what did everyone get up to for International Men's Day?

hello my friends

Hello as well! Looks like things are really getting going.

rubber ducky

Hello everyone! I'm new to the MensRights sub and my interest is purely academic

cool

Howdy everyone! I'm Silver and I'm a novelist! I hope those of you in the US are enjoying a happy turkey day!

I'd like to ask something that may seem repeated or ignorant, I've navigated through the sub and saw how the general claim is that the system is rigged against men (disposable ... etc), having almost 200k subscriber why don't you channel your voices through a representative to be elected to the house ?

That sounds like a good idea, though a lot of us are international. I'm not sure of that matters at all. We do encourage people to send letters to their local representative. I'm willing to host open letters and replies on www.menarehuman.com if anyone is interested. The most recent thing like this was a letter to the BBC which you can read about here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9z6n0k/response_from_the_bbc_following_a_complaint_about/?utm_source=reddit-android

@AnObserver Here is a good post as to why the mobilization is difficult: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/90hul0/karen_straughan_on_why_mens_rights_is_so_difficult/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=user&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=u_Silver_The_Bard

I read the letter and there was an interesting sentence that took my eye "judgement call, than an exact science" , I'm a Data Engineer and statistician and I've head it several times before it usually means "it's an ideological call, and not what our audience base should see"

Oh, well the blocking function works. 😋

Just deleted those posts by @japanese man#6989 I'll ban him if he keeps it up

@Silver_The_Bard Thanks a lot, that's a really good read with some points that really hit home.

@Silver_The_Bard Thank you for the article, it was quite revealing , now let me just say couple of things, first the way you can fix the logistics issue can be through crowdfunding for Ads so more men know that they aren't alone thus getting more support for the group, second and this is based on my limited knowledge of how identity politics collapsed through history I see that you have two ways to go either continue to resist in a direct way like you do now , or help to push the radical left/feminism/LGBT ideas , this kind of politics always felt because of the principle of explosion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion) in simple words if their was no more legal categorization of sex/gender the biggest beneficiary would be men because women are seen as a protected class , and this idea of removing sex/gender from the legal documents it extremely welcomed by the radical LGBT which made it harder for the feminists to go against (exemple : GRA reform) . I wish you all justice and best of luck 😉

@AnObserver Thanks a lot. Some really interesting ideas. We should take this to the wider Reddit and see if we can set something up.

I don't think we can get involved with feminism directly - it's very anti male. But I'm sure we are all happy to ally with any who are willing to help us.

@AnObserver Cool Theory. I thought those were the only two options myself for a time.
You could compare the Men’s Rights Movement to the Civil Rights movement in the 1960’s. A group devoted to changing society, by using the already established rules of civility.

But there have been a rise of two other groups that have puzzled me.

Incel is probably best compared to the Black Panthers of the same time era. A group fuel by hate that wants change BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

But now we also have MGTOW, a group also fueld by hate…. But choose inactivity vs activism.

no not with feminists but with the LGBT/Gender neutral groups, Ok let make a simple model to explain how the left works, the left is a group that have several subgroups within , there rules are simple no subgroup can criticize the other that why they call them selves as "the tolerant left", their major weakness or the logical fallacy is that they have different values , in other words you just need to support (not necessary to involve) the subgroup that values aligns with your interests (example of explosion : feminists want women to be always looked to as victims/class but LGBTs what to be able to change your gender just by saying so, which collide with the victim-hood class however a subgroup can't speak against the other because of the "tolerant rule", and here where the system crash) , so you don't need to get involved with feminists just support and express your support for the LGBT cause and I'm sure even the media will even support you .

They choose to systematically remove women from their lives. No fighting. No resistance. Just ignore them.

@AnObserver Good observation!

I had discussed with my peer group a year back for viable ways to tackle the problem. We came up with a similar approach.

@AnObserver Oh, I see. Thanks, that's a much better plan. Working with the lgtb is a natural fit for us as the rights of gay and bi men are men's rights. In fact, you could argue that they are the first and most successful men's rights activists - though they also campaign for lesbians and so on.

I might get shot down by some for saying that, I admit.

@Silver_The_Bard Thanks! @Men Are Human that my point exactly because no subgroup nor media dares to criticize them considering that they're a protected class/subgroup of the left

I do like the idea. I should probably move forward with my planned article about the experiences of transgender community members. Having seen both sides of the gender divide they have some unique perspective on the subject.

Your articles and support would have much more impact because it's unusual unlike sjws that most people developed a habit of ignoring them, and approach the media because they'll love to think that what is considered as a potential threat to their ideals is giving in and joining the tribes , after all in the BBC letter they did propose a link for suggestions (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/have_your_say), and one more thing keep a close eye on those asking for a gender neutral society they're Men's best friend 😉

I had chosen to take the long-term approach to the same subject. My skills are in story telling and world creation. So I wrote a novel that started to blend those same concepts into an action packed thriller.

You would not believe how many red flags my editor tossed at my manuscript because they were “too
political”. And my work is young adult! There is no sex and very little violence. Everything flagged was because it portrayed men or women in roles/actions that are not typical.

@AnObserver Do you work for a school? Or school project?