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2017-07-23 22:59:10 UTC

Hi, everyone. Your friend Why Tea here. My wife and I do a bit of gardening, and between the two of us and her father, we've got over a lifetime's experience. She was raised on a farm in the Northwest, and I'm from the Southeast, so we've got a bit of range there. At home here we currently have blueberry bushes, strawberries, a ton of tomatoes (of course) and we're also doing cantaloupe and an entire bed of sweet potatoes this year.

2017-07-23 23:32:32 UTC

Awesome man our blackberries and raspberries are just starting to ripen. About two weeks out. 300 plants!

2017-07-23 23:33:03 UTC

Stopped growing tomatoes a while back on account of the stinkbugs

2017-07-24 00:17:49 UTC

We have a huge blackberry bush, but we're going to rip it out, they are big and juicy, but even after several seasons, this variety just doesn't taste sweet. The raspberry bush hasn't ever taken off, unfortunately.

2017-07-24 00:19:28 UTC

300 plants is serious. I've got acreage and want to fill it with blueberries and strawberries.

2017-07-24 21:29:53 UTC

@Why Tea Hey there, thanks for doing this by the way.

2017-07-24 21:30:08 UTC

Is there any gardening books you would recommend?

2017-07-24 21:35:50 UTC

@Why Tea I love black berries! Do you know if I can grow them in a hot 100 degree climate like East Texas?

2017-07-24 21:44:34 UTC

berries seem to grow best in the North East or at least to my knowledge black/blue/raspberries grow wild all over NY esp upstate

2017-07-24 21:46:12 UTC

Can confirm, I see a shit ton of em where I am.

2017-07-24 22:03:53 UTC

Well, raspberries won't do well, they have to be further north, but blackberries do fine here in GA. There are a number of varieties. It doesn't get quite as hot here, but they still do fine. Really well. I don't have to actively water them or anything. It may be too hot or too dry where you are.

2017-07-24 22:04:19 UTC

The main thing is to make sure what you're trying to grow, as you asked, will work in your climate zone.

2017-07-24 22:04:35 UTC

And be sure to get a variety that does best in that zone.

2017-07-24 22:04:41 UTC

If there are different ones.

2017-07-24 22:06:11 UTC

For blackberries, there definitely are: https://www.almanac.com/plant/blackberries

2017-07-24 22:08:43 UTC

Bonus- blackberries grow like weeds. Very invasive, they love water

2017-07-24 22:08:59 UTC

Just like passion fruit

2017-07-24 22:10:48 UTC

Definitely a thorny weed!

2017-07-24 22:13:18 UTC

Oh wow that looks useful.

2017-07-24 22:13:27 UTC

Alright I'll have to check it out, thanks.

2017-07-24 22:17:19 UTC

@texan- tx Looks like you're in Zone 8 in East Texas, and all the blackberry stock I looked at grows in zones 5-9 so you're good.

2017-07-24 22:22:07 UTC

Thanks for the informative response @Why Tea

2017-07-24 22:23:22 UTC

I'm trying to find a particular variety that will do well there.

2017-07-24 22:24:21 UTC

I know they grow wild here

2017-07-24 22:24:26 UTC

For example, this: ".A NEW thornless blackberry USDA cultivar called โ€˜Sweetie Pieโ€™ was released that is resistant to disease, heat tolerant but tastes delicious. This cultivar, tested as MSUS119, came from a cross between โ€˜Navahoโ€™ and MSUS29. MSUS29 is a seedling from a cross of [Humble x Brazos] x Navaho. โ€˜Sweetie Pieโ€™ was selected at Poplarville, Mississippi in 1996. It was subsequently propagated and tested at McNeill, Mississippi, as well as in trial plantings in Louisiana and Arkansas. โ€˜Sweetie Pieโ€™ grows vigorously and produces numerous floricanes, which are thornless and have a trailing growth habit."

2017-07-24 22:25:00 UTC

I'd say if it does well in Mississippi, Louisiana, and Arkansas, this will work in Texas : )

2017-07-24 22:25:20 UTC

So see if you can find that. Bonus--thornless!

2017-07-24 22:25:29 UTC

Thanks man I'll try and find some seeds online

2017-07-24 22:32:50 UTC

The wild Blackberries grow to be as big as half dollars here

2017-07-24 22:36:27 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712549449793536/339174017519058945/JPEG_20170622_173529.jpg

2017-07-24 22:37:20 UTC

A picture from this year, they only got up to a little over the size of a quarter at best. Last year they were huge. Biggest I've ever seen

2017-07-24 22:39:08 UTC

Our first year they were pretty bitter. These year they're much sweeter. We keep em netted now to keep the stink bugs off

2017-07-25 01:09:43 UTC

Yeah those stink bugs are a nuisance

2017-07-25 01:24:33 UTC

And for whatever reason they love hanging around blackberries

2017-07-25 01:33:47 UTC

They suck the juice out of anything sweet up here including corn

2017-07-25 03:42:15 UTC

Will fence lizards eat them?

2017-07-25 11:42:56 UTC

There's not many predators for them. Wild turkeys cross bred with domestic turkeys for some reason can eat pounds of them, but their stink power makes them inedible to most predators.

2017-07-25 13:46:59 UTC

@here does anyone know anything about growing mushrooms?

2017-07-25 13:47:01 UTC
2017-07-25 14:02:59 UTC

Yes.

2017-07-25 14:03:24 UTC

Are you looking to grow indoors or out?

2017-07-25 14:10:13 UTC

I've only grown mushrooms from a kit, once, indoors. I'll defer to Alexander on this one.

2017-07-25 16:22:54 UTC

All I know is that you need darkness and a shit ton of moisture.

2017-07-25 16:24:10 UTC

Ambient (not direct) light

2017-07-25 18:24:10 UTC

@Alexander B. - SC I am open to whatever works best

2017-07-25 19:19:21 UTC

@R O M A N V S I know a fish tank would be a good place to let the spores grow.

2017-07-25 19:56:46 UTC

Fish tank with a piece of glass inside to spray water on(enough to keep a humid environment, not make mushrooms wet) ambient light (such as in the vicinity of a window, not in the direct sunlight) everything must be thoroughly sterilized beforehand

2017-07-25 22:05:43 UTC

Thomas has hit the nail on the head as far as indoor growing is concerned. Spores are injected into mason jars full of nutrient pellets in order to create the mycellium (spelling?) which is the "heart" of your mushroom growth. The contents are then removed from the jars and placed in a sanitized container, in ambient light, and then spritzed with water periodically.

2017-07-25 22:06:10 UTC

When it comes to heartier mushrooms, you can easily grow them outside given the right conditions.

2017-07-25 22:09:10 UTC

^ this is a great resource for ordering "log plugs" which are exactly what they sound like. Simply drill holes in logs, insert plugs, boom - shiitakes. The conditions have to be fair, but shiitakes are pretty resiliant. I imagine you have to spray the logs with water once every now and again *maybe*. But I can't imagine it taking any more effort than that.

2017-07-25 22:35:34 UTC

You can also use a medium of vermiculite and organic brown rice(ground)

2017-07-26 03:18:39 UTC

Yes?

2017-07-26 03:19:27 UTC

Thank you for the input thus far everyone, especially Alex and Thomas. I will do some more research and probably be back to further the discussion.

2017-07-26 03:19:57 UTC

Ah, yeah your mushrooms. Good luck with them!

2017-07-26 03:20:14 UTC

You got it, brother

2017-07-29 10:29:58 UTC

Simple lesson coming soon on how to keep critters and varmints from getting your cantaloupes!

2017-07-29 10:30:08 UTC

Is it a Ruger 10/22?

2017-07-29 11:35:19 UTC
2017-07-29 12:55:53 UTC

Kek

2017-07-29 15:21:32 UTC

How does one know if a plant is getting too much direct sunlight?

2017-07-29 17:39:09 UTC

@WhyTea-Gardener i have a kiefer pear tree and the fruit is starting to come to term. The fruit does not taste very well to eat straight from the tree and I was told that it is best used for jams and jellies. Are there any other uses as far as cooking is concerned that you are aware of? I've never seen a pear cobbler or pie etc.

2017-07-29 18:02:25 UTC

@Dan iiii for some plants it's not the direct sunlight but rather the high temperature

2017-07-29 18:42:53 UTC

@Dan iiii Depends largely on the plant but the surest way to tell is if it gets sunburned. Yes, plants get sunburned. They affected portion will turn white and papery (I'll post a pic below). If you're asking about time of exposure, remember that plants do their actually growing in the dark so too long exposure can cause the plant to grow more slowly or not fruit, etc.

2017-07-29 18:43:54 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712549449793536/340927431777189888/dscf0676.jpg

2017-07-30 17:10:49 UTC

@Deleted User I'm more familiar with the jams and jellies myself but a cobbler or pie might be nice. Follow the same recipes as for apple and I'd expect it would work out fine.

2017-07-30 17:11:07 UTC

@Grenadier lol no it's little cages made of hardware cloth!

2017-07-30 17:35:02 UTC

@Why Tea I like my idea better.

2017-07-30 17:35:22 UTC

Keeps them off your crops and free meat!

2017-07-30 17:35:33 UTC

And you get to shoot something!

2017-07-30 19:35:06 UTC

Have any of you dealt with or been a beekeeper? I think I'd like to get some hives soon

2017-07-31 01:49:34 UTC

Nice, do often sell a lot of honey or do you end up using most of it on your own?

2017-07-31 01:53:39 UTC

We have a fella that sells it out. They crank out quite a bit of honey. Tens and tens of pounds

2017-07-31 01:54:26 UTC

Wow, how many hives do you have?

2017-07-31 02:04:00 UTC

3.

2017-07-31 02:04:18 UTC

We've pulled north of 30 so far out of two this year

2017-07-31 02:05:56 UTC

If you don't mind me asking how much do you get from all that money wise?

2017-07-31 02:07:46 UTC

A bottle (about half a pound) retails at about eight bucks. Beekeeper charges about 1/2 to 2/3 of that.

2017-07-31 13:41:10 UTC

@Deleted User could you describe the flavor/texture of the pears?

2017-07-31 14:05:31 UTC

Juicy as hell, little gritty and have an earthy taste moreso than you'd expect

2017-08-01 04:03:53 UTC

@R O M A N V S sterilization is key

2017-08-06 06:40:22 UTC

Nice

2017-08-18 01:04:14 UTC

Can anyone ID this plant?

2017-08-18 01:04:24 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712549449793536/347908559771533322/image.jpg

2017-08-18 01:04:48 UTC

Queen Anne's lace, I think.

2017-08-18 01:04:58 UTC

"Chigger-weed"

2017-08-18 01:05:31 UTC

carrot?

2017-08-18 01:05:50 UTC

They're all over the yard at our new place.

2017-08-18 01:06:07 UTC

Not in a garden.

2017-08-18 01:06:48 UTC

It's in the carrot family tho

2017-08-18 01:07:23 UTC

Daucus carota

2017-08-18 01:07:31 UTC

Wild carrot/queen Anne's lace looks like it.

2017-08-18 01:07:35 UTC

Thanks!

2017-08-18 01:08:15 UTC

You may not want to pick or walk around while wearing shorts. Chiggers suck.

2017-08-18 01:08:36 UTC

Yeah I've had them before. Horrible.

2017-08-18 01:09:17 UTC

So, is there a way to ID apples? We have a tree and we don't know what kind they are.

2017-08-18 01:10:45 UTC

post a pic

2017-08-18 01:12:20 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712549449793536/347910553785597953/image.jpg

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