No, I just got access today.

Well, eventually we will. You’ll know me as the eccentric one who brings the 10% beer

Oy there mate. 'Ave's ya got yer ten pah sent bee yuh loicense?

Got ya loicense roight ‘ere mate, aye aye

Lol I look forward to the meetup. I don't drink so I'll bring my own root beer.

carry on then lad, and ya's best not be makin' trubble fer the new moigrants

@PhoenixFire 😉

@Phillip Wiglesworth - FL I'll hold my White privilege in check. You know? Cause I care and stuff.

lol. RootBeer poasting 😉

I used to chug root beer thinking I’d get to the root of it

But I didn’t I only got sick

@Tyler0317 LOL 🤓

I always drink root beer 2 at a time, so I can find the square root.

@PhoenixFire lol

That react change oof

One of my biker pal's wife makes the absolute best apple pie moonshine. It's absolutely to die for

sooooo smooth, so delicious. just sneaks up on you

^^^ the most Florida post ever made

loool

N.E.R.D. in da hawse ya'll.

He’s a Georgia NERD tho

Georgia NERD stands for Not Every Redneck Drinks

stay proud borther

Yes indeed Wotan!

@Wotan Klan-GA Collapse? Explain..

Georgia crew going in tonight on the chat.

Georgia = the US's Dingos

Wotan Clan: "Guys, we're heading for imminent destruc--" *radio silence*

Dingos?

@Flint oh lawd flint, the collapse comes when the ruling class succeeds in their social project and the “great society” that came from it falls apart because it was built on the same lies that have killed every civilization that were subject to them.

Our job isn’t to recreate western civilization but instead to create a new civilization because that thing we call the West is experiencing its death rattles

Modernity must go

“modernity” is just the last stage of an antiquated world. We are the real modernity.

Like how the Left “unthings” the concepts it is opposed to (without explanation) we must “unthing” the society they are trying to reforge. This time we will have a real explanation and a real solution.

Oh, definitely. We *are* collapsing. I was thinking you meant the more immediate situation

I would like to turn the clock back several hundred years on a lot of ways of society. Not everything, but most of it.

Student debt bubble, housing market, strength of dollar, Israel pulling us into Iran..

*All those wonderful variables*

@missliterallywho I disagree with the idea of the turning the clock back

For instance, the peasant class-- which definitely still exists-- does not need more than a 6th grade education

We are modernists. We are modernists with a forward thinking goal that includes our people and excludes those who seek our destruction

I consider myself an archeofuturist

I wonder if the ancient Egyptian culture fell the same way ours is falling now? In the Valley of Kings, many of the mummies dna are almost identical to Western Europeans.

If we could just not create the conditions that breed communists, I'd be fine with that lol

The past is a source of inspiration and reverence but the future is our main goal. I personally reject the idea of dipping out to the woods and building an ethnostate in the forest. It will only make it easier for our innate enemies

Not to mention the vast pyramid complex in China, with 6'6 White mummies with red hair.

@Flint Like letting the peasants and the women get uppity?

I seen a rapper tweet and spell it like pheasants

I would caution against having a peasant class

There will always be a peasant class. Some people are dumb.

The meme of corporate profits never being passed down to the workers is true, though.

Like a caste system? There’s social mobility right? Would you be predetermined to be in the peasant class?

So, yeah, there'd still be 'peasants'--but they wouldn't be living in squalor waiting to kill the rich

Just trying to understand the meaning of peasant class in this context

I wouldn't get to autistic about it, lol

There should be options for apprenticeship starting around the 7th grade

It sounded big brained earlier

The convo

I think there must be a way to mix a mostly predetermined genetic class system with meritocracy, where the smartest, hardest working lower class people can earn their way up, and the crappiest aristocrats will find themselves demoted.

In which case it wouldn’t be predetermined

Because it would arise naturally

Right, I said a mix

So selective breeding?

"The American Dream" is dead and unworkable for the future

This is interesting. Does this apply to a heterogenous or homogeneous racial demographic?

The mix would happen naturally, but we have to remember the sociopaths rise to the top and how they would quickly create the same conditions we have now

thus, corporations who care nothing for their own people

hence, a breeding ground for commies

Sociopaths always rise to the top. Also sociopathy is genetic so nobility won’t work the way we want it to

*The question is: how to get people to do the right thing?*

We don’t

We keep things simple and pure. The governments job is to keep the demographics safe

Basically I just think we need to stop encouraging the most dysgenic, worst among us to go to college and become middle class. They need to stick where they belong, on the lowest (decent) rungs of the social ladder.

How would a warrior class be established?

White libertarianism ftw

Until we purge the universities of subversives, almost no one should go

An ideal situation would be a huge collapse that culls the herd

Every man would be in the warrior class

@PhoenixFire That'll happen naturally, too. Dudes that love their people would be excited to defend them

Sociopaths are still a huge threat

We need a heavy dose of natural selection

We will eventually reach carrying capacity with the global population

These people need to be culled with the subversives

I'm thinking nature will take its course with some plague or something if humans don't do it first.

You've become a bit more hardcore the further along you've come in your pregnancy @missliterallywho

Just an observation.

A population always reaches its growth capacity and has a natural cull occur

This is getting into nasty territory, I’ll let y’all do your thing

@Asatru Artist - MD Africa is already trying her hardest

Yeah, and we keep undoing what nature attempts... 😒

@Deleted User lol *but* I'm no longer a wignat <:4dchess:439923932062154782>

Without the West, Africa's population would half in no time.

Dare I say it?

baby steps...

I've never actually considered *what I would want* as much as *I know what we don't need*

Every living organism reaches beyond what its resources are capable of sustaining

So I never think "what is the perfect new society" as much as "how do I keep this from happening again?"

The greed, antisocial behavior, the subversion, etc

Lol I'm definitely always thinking in terms of impossible ideals instead of current real problems

We need both

Idealists are always appreciated in hindsight

I used to be idealistic, lol

I'm a little more realistic now

i've been a realist far too long

The ideal is the dream, the realism is the goal

*How close to heaven can the earth get?*

Deciding how to raise my son is where my ideals meet the test of reality

It’s the Socratic method with yourself when you start to do those sort of mental gymnastics. It develops your political philosophy

force those ideals into reality

we can do it

I don't entirely disagree with your statements, though I would certainly word them differently.

Society as a whole has been slid towards promoting dysgenics. We need to move back towards a balance with nature.

@missliterallywho ^

Some days, I look only to my hatred of the left to oppose them; other days it's from the love of my people

Modernism and globalism are not the way

19th century was pretty great

@William Russell we got ourselves into this mess incrementally. We will have to get ourselves out of this mess the same way.

I wonder if we have peaked or if it’s going to get worse before it’ll get better

I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
-Psalm 139:22

Maybe I'll get that tattoo around my ankle and take selfies with duck lips

@Deleted User I've been thinking going back to some of the social rigidity of prewar Europe could help with the dysgenic problem

I 100% encourage a higher IQ working class

Make bullying great again

@William Russell tbh, it really will get worse, this is evident in the left's goals

Positive bullying needs to become the norm.

Absolutely! None of this weak spine cyberbullying

Bully squad ready

https://youtu.be/fISgKl8dB3M

@missliterallywho Completely agree. It's funny you and I have been lockstep in our view towards social policy for probably the entire time we've know one another - the only difference is in how we express these ideas.

That video looks a bit like a lot of IE...

I think pre-war europe was perhaps a bit *too* rigid. A moderate level of class mobility is probably ideal.

*far* less than we have now, though.

Just a reminder that modern combat is at least 90% cardio and very little actual strength

Class mobility is important because it discourages the "othering" of other classes

And keeps peasant revolts down

Who needs Kulaks?

If we could get rich whites to care about poor whites, the fight is just about over

The opiod addictions, the dying of preventable and treatable diseases, etc

The homelessness of entire families because of one layoff or illness

@Deleted User I've been watching a lot of Downton Abbey, which begins just before WWII and goes through the 20s+, and it's fascinating and frustrating to see what changed for better and worse. I wouldn't bring back all of it (especially old approaches to pregnancy & birth), and clearly Brits are very different in character compared to us, but a lot of the old ways we never should have ditched.

I've seen a few episodes.

Some guy was on TDS saying he blames rich whites more than he blames Jews for our current situation. Can't say I completely disagree.

I've made promos for PBS for Downton Abbey, never actually watched the show though.

I'm in season 4, no spoilers plz

@missliterallywho What class of people are the main characters in that show?

All of them, really

It's a large cast and details the lives of all the people in the house

@John O - It's about an Earl's family and his servants, so all classes show up

Who do you self insert as?

*don't say the flapper don't say the flapper*

The flapper.

lol

nice

I can empathize with a variety of characters. My mom thinks I'm a lot like Mary, the "cold" one lol

Oh, you were talking to Mrs. Logan, my bad....

Oh, so the upper class

Is there a sassy maid? I want to be *her*

no reason..

We don't have a comparable class system by any means, realistically I'd be between the aristocrats and the servants

i saw a scene with some dude racing a car...I wanna be him.

*Oi! Getcha own damn tea*

@Flint The sassy maids always get fired

You mean freed from my bourgeoi masters to go have my own series?

The burgeoning middle class shows up here and there but none of the main characters are in it

*Oi, you got a license for that!* the series

Lol one sassy maid ended up with a bastard child and worked as a prostitute. Bad behavior used to have real consequences

So, it'll be an HBO show?

Not in that century lol

She was majorly shunned

Actually, there really is a show like that, set in the 70's disco ere

Had Maggie Gylenhal and James Franco...

Gross

Don't remember what it was called

She was a prostitute in NYC and had a daughter

The only HBO series I liked was The Young Pope. Although it had a lot of sexual themes which I didn't like that much

He was the brother of some guy who owed money. I only saw about 20 mins of it

The Wire is a good HBO series. It’s about the drug scene in Baltimore during the 90’s. It’s fiction tho

John Adams is a great miniseries

Downton never shows more than a kiss, it's so refreshing not to be visually assaulted by sex scenes that do nothing for the plot

Ah, found it, it was called "The Deuce"

@William Russell The Wire was awesome

God, it would've been so cool to be working class in turn of the century London

Baltimore is out of control

@John O - For real?

No

lol

It would've sucked so bad

Farmer in 1860 America might be nice

Start at 7 years old in the textile mill

18 hour shifts

Pretty much all of history wouldn't have been to fun to be in, tbh. The beds we have now are better than what Kings had

Labor Unions are pretty cool don't @ me

I agree

We need to fix them

yaaas

They’re getting a bad rep

Labor Unions were necessary

@John O - REEEEE

I SAID DON'T @ ME

@John O - hey cutie.

For the record, I'm non Union

My company is owned by a Mexican parent company. They’re ripping off farmers wages. A union would do wonders

I understand why people hate unions, but what do you do when the rich treat their workers like garbage?

It's simply a check on human greed

The issue is that Unions are pro immigration, which is the opposite of the logical mindset of a Union

Yeah, now we need unions for the unions...

and then a union for them

Public Unions are garbage, private are kind of on basis

I'm anti Corporatist, but I'm also aware that Unions are huge political machines, similar to corporations

Who's running these unions? 👃

Unions have become too big

Absolute power corrupts..

@missliterallywho The mob

So does money

I like Feudalism

Lets go WAY back

@John O - spaghett?

I've found getting people to do the right thing doesn't work when you don't have leverage on them

Yes

*C'mon, don't do that, it's not right* is not a persuasive argument to those that simply don't care

thus the mobs and pitch forks

class division

Which ties it all back to the importance of class mobility

And passing some of those earnings down to the workers

I’d be on the short end of the stick without class mobility

Find balance between the old order and the new @John O -

So we don't end up right where we're currently at

Going back 3 or 4 gens anyhow

Literally everyone in IE would @William Russell

That’s no joke

Corporate earnings way up, stock market way up, wages... the same. Angry people, why's that?

People are making our salaries in a pay period.

@Deleted User fs my dude. I'm not an economist, I'm not smart enough to re-invent the wheel, all I know is that romanticizing miserable periods of human history is bad

and then going to book it when it all falls apart

only to come back to invest in the shattered and cheap market

My mom's mom was definitely aristocracy, but most of the rest of my family was lower class and rose up, or was already middle class for generations

My great grandfather and his family were driven from Missouri into Mexico. We were refugees.

There was a period of US history where land was owned by the greatest proportion of the population in the middle part of last century, but that proportion is rapidly shrinking, and will shrink even greater when the bubble pops and property values plummet

All I want in life is to be a land owner

Well not all but...

I’ve been saving for about 80 acres

Take it before they take it all for themselves

There’s liberation in owning land.

Kinda, lol

A privacy I’ve never had being a renter my whole life

I feel like land ownership especially in rural america is a sign of aristocracy.

Definitely.

I used to believe all the myths about the South being open and free and people hunting and the poor fishing

You're lucky you are not in the west. The western half of the US is mostly owned by the federal government. That's why we have so many wildfires. 90% of the California wildfires are started on federally managed land.

Turns out everywhere is owned and to hunt you have to pay a lease or find the owner of the land

I'm from out west originally, that's why I had a false impression of the South

California...