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2018-10-13 03:28:09 UTC

I want to do this at WSU

2018-10-13 03:28:35 UTC

Go around and engage students in discussion on immigration

2018-10-13 03:29:03 UTC

The jpg is too powerful I'm having trouble reading

2018-10-13 03:29:08 UTC

@StevePines -WA πŸ‘‹πŸ»

2018-10-13 03:29:12 UTC

Yo

2018-10-13 03:30:12 UTC

wait let me find the page

2018-10-13 03:30:21 UTC

But yeah immigration is a big issue for me

2018-10-13 03:30:39 UTC

We should do a meetup in Spokane soon

2018-10-13 03:30:41 UTC

I just got my US Border Patrol hat in the mail

2018-10-13 03:30:51 UTC

For sure I'm sure I'll be up there at some point

2018-10-13 03:31:05 UTC

Actually I'm planning on going to the WPC dinner up there

2018-10-13 03:31:43 UTC

When is that?

2018-10-13 03:31:57 UTC

I think Oct 24 but I'll be at the event the whole time

2018-10-13 03:32:39 UTC

Try downloading the picture and then reading it

2018-10-13 03:32:51 UTC

I think it doesn't let you zoom in

2018-10-13 03:32:55 UTC

unless you download

2018-10-13 03:34:11 UTC

Oh so it's like not an organized event but just walking up to people?

2018-10-13 03:36:56 UTC

I think that's what they did

2018-10-13 03:37:09 UTC

But there's plenty that we can do

2018-10-13 03:37:21 UTC

We just have to get it approved with the activism coordinator

2018-10-13 03:39:14 UTC

For sure I'd love to get out there

2018-10-13 03:40:35 UTC

The big Spokane event we did before the Summer was pretty fun. It would be cool if we could get something bigger organized. That takes some notice, though, for now we should just focus on getting meetups going again. Once you get into the state server we'll talk about it with the other members.

2018-10-13 03:41:23 UTC

Sounds good, I know my friend who was at the Spokane event said it was a great time

2018-10-13 03:42:08 UTC

getting into your state server and meeting the other IE members is the best part

2018-10-13 03:43:04 UTC

Do I get in after the second interview?

2018-10-13 03:43:23 UTC

yeah, i think the 2nd interview is with your state cordinator

2018-10-13 03:43:39 UTC

I'm your regional coordinator btw

2018-10-13 03:43:43 UTC

my state cordinator happens to be the IE cordinator

2018-10-13 03:43:58 UTC

Oh nice to meet you then!

2018-10-13 03:43:59 UTC

Niko is the Washington coordinator, but he assigned me as his assistant coordinator for Eastern Washington

2018-10-13 03:44:04 UTC

nice to meet you too

2018-10-13 03:44:17 UTC

jacob is good folk

2018-10-13 03:44:35 UTC

Is he in eastern too?

2018-10-13 03:44:57 UTC

He's in Seattle

2018-10-13 03:45:11 UTC

We have a good amount of members in Western Washington

2018-10-13 03:45:11 UTC

Rip him

2018-10-13 03:45:15 UTC

lol

2018-10-13 03:45:24 UTC

I hate Seattle

2018-10-13 03:45:27 UTC

The guys from the other side are willing to drive out here occasionally

2018-10-13 03:45:30 UTC

I hate Seattle, too

2018-10-13 03:45:43 UTC

I like somewhat rural areas

2018-10-13 03:45:52 UTC

Same, except central Washington

2018-10-13 03:46:03 UTC

I haven't spent too much time there

2018-10-13 03:46:06 UTC

What's wrong with it?

2018-10-13 03:46:14 UTC

Isn't Othello like 85% Mexican?

2018-10-13 03:46:20 UTC

oof

2018-10-13 03:46:25 UTC

There's a LOT of Mexicans in central

2018-10-13 03:46:29 UTC

oh ya they have a lot of places like that

2018-10-13 03:46:42 UTC

they might even have a county that's Hispanic majority

2018-10-13 03:46:51 UTC

yikes

2018-10-13 03:46:53 UTC

Yeah it's messed up

2018-10-13 03:47:14 UTC

i didnt realize immigration would even be an issue for wwashington state

2018-10-13 03:47:17 UTC

but damn

2018-10-13 03:47:26 UTC

Well in eastern it's not really

2018-10-13 03:47:40 UTC

Most places here are 80+% white still

2018-10-13 03:48:02 UTC

I think Pullman is somewhere around 90%

2018-10-13 03:48:09 UTC

GA is exptected to be minority white in the coming years soon

2018-10-13 03:48:15 UTC

F

2018-10-13 03:48:24 UTC

its 28% white in my local town

2018-10-13 03:48:28 UTC

Spokane County is 89% white

2018-10-13 03:48:34 UTC

Lincoln County is 95% white

2018-10-13 03:48:46 UTC

Honestly, though, should be 100%

2018-10-13 03:48:56 UTC

Tbh

2018-10-13 03:49:20 UTC

It's the agriculture

2018-10-13 03:49:22 UTC

oh, my county is 48% white

2018-10-13 03:49:26 UTC

Lots of Mexicans from that

2018-10-13 03:49:55 UTC

pretty sure im in the blackest town in my county tho

2018-10-13 03:50:17 UTC

F

2018-10-13 03:50:26 UTC

dont hit F yet pls

2018-10-13 03:50:36 UTC

im trying to avoid that tbh

2018-10-13 03:51:05 UTC

The funny thing is the town I grew up in had a few blacks but they were kinda the higher class ones, never had a problem, then I came to WSU

2018-10-13 03:51:44 UTC

I had a 400 level project class and there was a black guy in my group, literally could not write at a college level I was shocked

2018-10-13 03:52:15 UTC

😬

2018-10-13 03:53:17 UTC

I moved to florida for 10/11th grade, then came back to GA for 12th grade. but GA does their graduation tests in 11th grade

2018-10-13 03:53:53 UTC

so im in 12th taking the graduation tests, and i kept getting asked "hey homie, how many time u took this test?"

2018-10-13 03:54:02 UTC

I was the only white dude in the make up test room

2018-10-13 03:54:41 UTC

Sad times, I hope we can turn the tide before it's too late

2018-10-13 03:55:04 UTC

It's hard to imagine we were able to keep demographics until the 60s and now look at us

2018-10-13 03:55:28 UTC

real shit

2018-10-13 03:55:42 UTC

straight white males built this country, and took our species too the moon

2018-10-13 03:56:03 UTC

and if you feel guilty about that...... idk what to tell you

2018-10-13 03:56:41 UTC

Not at all

2018-10-13 03:56:42 UTC

✊🏻

2018-10-13 03:56:49 UTC

I'm proud of our history

2018-10-13 03:57:51 UTC

Hey Steve, welcome to Identity Evropa

2018-10-13 03:57:53 UTC

My county is 92% but you wouldn't think that looking at any school

2018-10-13 03:57:59 UTC

Thanks!

2018-10-13 03:58:16 UTC

but that was 2010 numbers, they're bound to be way different come 2020

2018-10-13 03:58:25 UTC

school demographics are the worst

2018-10-13 03:59:26 UTC

Hopefully you guys listen to Jared Howes podcast, he will breakdown what mass immigration will do to a small town of 10,000 people

2018-10-13 03:59:42 UTC

It's funny, Boomer Republicans complain all day about housing prices in Seattle but refuse to talk immigration

2018-10-13 03:59:50 UTC

So they won't get labeled as racists

2018-10-13 04:00:37 UTC

Same with the whole "no identity politics" thing but also having their token blacks etc.

2018-10-13 04:00:56 UTC

boomers cling onto capitalism, then complain when they have to press 2 for english

2018-10-13 04:01:45 UTC

like, you imported cheap 3rd world labor, wtf did you expect

2018-10-13 04:01:49 UTC

Because the media paints it as morally wrong to not want foreigners invading your country

2018-10-13 04:02:54 UTC

no, corportations have an interest in keeping their profits, so importing cheap 3rd world labor is in their interests

2018-10-13 04:03:04 UTC

including corporate media

2018-10-13 04:04:06 UTC

I'm too far into the Eric Striker pill for capitalism and individualism tbh

2018-10-13 04:04:37 UTC

Christ I'm watching the new Jared Taylor video

2018-10-13 04:04:42 UTC

Eric Striker is a retard.

2018-10-13 04:04:46 UTC

Change my mind.

2018-10-13 04:04:55 UTC

crowder.jpg

2018-10-13 04:05:42 UTC

lol I might be too intoxicated to challenge you. but whats your main problem?

2018-10-13 04:05:49 UTC

The drgredation of monuments in this country is disgusting

2018-10-13 04:06:31 UTC

I just oppose the idea of profits>society

2018-10-13 04:07:20 UTC

@Madd Dogg His radical, violent and frankly impractical view on nearly everything political. Also have met him in person, not super impressive...

2018-10-13 04:08:46 UTC

Oh well, I do know about him having a history in TWP, never met him and I only know of him from his appearances on HeelTurn and Strike and Mike streams

2018-10-13 04:09:00 UTC

That said, he knows his history - particularly when it comes to the Bolsheviks/Red Scare in the states/ anything pertaining to historical Jewish power and influence (far, far better than myself)

2018-10-13 04:09:29 UTC

My main issue with the dude is that he's an ideologue and ideologues always lose.

2018-10-13 04:09:46 UTC

Yeah thats about my knowledge of him, and I wouldn't be surprised if he has fed-posted from time to time

2018-10-13 04:09:54 UTC

oh

2018-10-13 04:10:09 UTC

If by time-to-time you mean constantly...sure.

2018-10-13 04:10:38 UTC

Yeah he's bad optics(just another word for stratgey, really)

2018-10-13 04:11:47 UTC

I always divide the optics thing between 'in house entertainment' vs 'promoting our ideas'

2018-10-13 04:12:07 UTC

Eric isn't for the normie audience

2018-10-13 04:12:19 UTC

but ultimately his commitment to an esoteric, never-been-successful, third position ideology - and nothing but (not necessarily referring to NS here) is where he fails and will always fail.

2018-10-13 04:12:50 UTC

Impractical, radical, idealistic, foolish.

2018-10-13 04:14:21 UTC

We have to be pragmatists of the highest order - remain flexible, and current with the trends of culture and politik - how we got ourselves into this mess is the same way we will get ourselves out.

2018-10-13 04:14:41 UTC

Incrementally. Step by baby step.

2018-10-13 04:14:49 UTC

Well said

2018-10-13 04:16:12 UTC

Frankly at this point, I'm okay with all but the most retarded positions, as long as it's pro-white.

2018-10-13 04:16:28 UTC

Has striker ever talked about how exactly we should go about getting to his ideal world or is it mostly talking about his ideal society?

2018-10-13 04:16:42 UTC

Libertarian, Classic American / Roman Republic, Pine Tree Gang, NazBol, AnCap, White Juche, Christian Monarchy...

2018-10-13 04:16:50 UTC

Just close the damn borders.

2018-10-13 04:16:58 UTC

@fgtveassassin Can't say as I don't really think or care much about the guy.

2018-10-13 04:18:04 UTC

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Right and wrong. There are many pro-white positions and individuals that we want to stay far the heck away from - radicals, extremists (literally) insane people and especially ideologues.

2018-10-13 04:18:19 UTC

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN this so much

2018-10-13 04:18:39 UTC

@Deleted User I prioritize people over the ideology, but I get what you're saying.

2018-10-13 04:19:07 UTC

okay fair enough, there are some pro-white ideologies that suck, but I'll take a bad pro-white one over an otherwise good anti-white one

2018-10-13 04:19:22 UTC

And of course there's a difference between "What's good for I.E." and "what's okay out in the wild on its own"

2018-10-13 04:19:31 UTC

Ben Shapiro>Siegetards

2018-10-13 04:19:53 UTC

It'll be a cold day in Hell before Americans accept a theocratic monarchy or nazbol, pro-white or not

2018-10-13 04:19:55 UTC

I argue Striker is not for I.E., but I'm glad he's out there. Getting Tankies to value the 14 words is still a net upgrade.

2018-10-13 04:20:16 UTC

Your flexibility is good, but we need to think pragmatically - what appeals to the avg American? Pine Tree Gang? White Juche? National Bolshevism?

No.

"America is a Nation of Laws"

"BUILD THE WALL, BUILD THE WALL, BUILD THE WALL"

"OUT OUT OUT!"

this is what appeals to the American man.\

2018-10-13 04:20:18 UTC

@NateDahl76 "I don't care about the browning of America..." ~Ben Shapiro

2018-10-13 04:20:29 UTC

@TMatthews Not to LARP, but obviously that would be in a post-America, several generations later scenario.

2018-10-13 04:20:40 UTC

Yeah but he teaches young white men to stand up for their values @Asatru Artist - MD

2018-10-13 04:20:47 UTC

lol no he doesn't

2018-10-13 04:20:51 UTC

Oy!

2018-10-13 04:20:55 UTC

he teaches them to stand up for Israel

2018-10-13 04:20:58 UTC

^

2018-10-13 04:21:11 UTC

Okay, look, I'll take Ben Shapiro over LITERAL Siege

2018-10-13 04:21:21 UTC

He’s also opposed to degeneracy

2018-10-13 04:21:27 UTC

@Deleted User Agreed. MAGA works for now, provided it fulfills its potential / promises.

2018-10-13 04:21:31 UTC

I said "bad", not "horrible" for a reason

2018-10-13 04:21:38 UTC

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Post America is likely to come, but the influences of old America will remain. It's better for us to reclaim the founding fathers than go against them

2018-10-13 04:21:47 UTC

Videos of him btfoing trannies and BLM people really pushed me in the right direction tbh

2018-10-13 04:21:59 UTC

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN exactly, we embrace what works and eschew what fails. basic shit.

2018-10-13 04:22:13 UTC

not too hard to btfo the mentally ill πŸ˜‰

2018-10-13 04:22:13 UTC

@TMatthews I agree. I'm not trying to larp. I only cited all of the ends of the "dissident right" (lol we are truly diverse) to demonstrate that I DON'T CARE about ideology

2018-10-13 04:22:25 UTC

I totally agree with the whole appealing to civnats thing, but, hypothetically, if I had to chose a way to run a country, civic nationalism is useless

2018-10-13 04:23:05 UTC

@Jacob Civic Nationalism is a much better social regime than what we are currently exposed to.

2018-10-13 04:23:23 UTC

Well that's not true. I have opinions. I guess what I mean is I'm not interested in ideological purity. Which means, yes, I can work with MAGA

2018-10-13 04:23:24 UTC

Is it? It just delays us becoming a minority by like 5 years. The end result is the same.

2018-10-13 04:23:29 UTC

I rejected basic tenets of leftist ideology in part because of Ben Shapiro. I rejected the systematic white supremacy stuff and gender queer bs

2018-10-13 04:23:39 UTC

Civic nationalism is not a viable solution, but there are civnats that literally want to deport 30 million people. Strategically finding common ground with them is good politics

2018-10-13 04:23:58 UTC

Well, it's also worth pointing out that civnats are on a spectrum

2018-10-13 04:24:13 UTC

You can plug a hole with cement or chewing gum. Just get the hole plugged.

2018-10-13 04:24:32 UTC

If you don't have cement, get to chewing.

2018-10-13 04:24:36 UTC

"End immigration" civic nationalism is useful, "I love legal immigration" civic nationalism is literally the same end result as liberalism

2018-10-13 04:24:57 UTC

us = cement, civnats = chewing gum, GOP = fishnet

2018-10-13 04:25:03 UTC

A lot of civnats know deep down that we are right. We just have to break the stranglehold that the moral paradigm of "racism" holds over them

2018-10-13 04:25:05 UTC

Mass importation of Asians actually makes the average white an underclass quicker than mass mestizo. Of course the problem is now we have both happening.

2018-10-13 04:25:22 UTC

@Jacob, Civnats literally want to physically round up 11 million human beings and build a several thousand mile long wall at our Mexican border. - If you don't see a CivNat regime as a massive improvement to our current political order you are blind

2018-10-13 04:25:29 UTC

IQ nationalism isn't real nationalism

2018-10-13 04:25:38 UTC

@Asatru Artist - MD Problem is, a lot of the time civnats don't want to fix the hole

2018-10-13 04:25:41 UTC

again. it's not the ideal - its a step in the right direction.

2018-10-13 04:26:18 UTC

"Big Brain nibbas only" -Civnats

2018-10-13 04:26:21 UTC

I won't counter signal MAGA. Murdoch is right, MAGA is the sleeping giant.

2018-10-13 04:26:42 UTC

Dumb but powerful.

2018-10-13 04:26:43 UTC

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN sure. it's up to us to awaken and harness it!

2018-10-13 04:27:20 UTC

I am looking forward to buying a MAGA hat. Should I get classic red or camo?

2018-10-13 04:27:27 UTC

Which is better O P T I C S ?

2018-10-13 04:27:35 UTC

We didn't get in this mess overnight and we won't get out of it overnight. Just as the left didn't go straight from JFK to what it is today, we are going to have to make incremental progress. Getting civnats like Trump in power is a step in the right direction for the first time in many years

2018-10-13 04:27:38 UTC

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN do they still have vaporwave pink?

2018-10-13 04:27:44 UTC

red will trigger more people...

2018-10-13 04:27:56 UTC

@TMatthews Yeah I see eye to eye with you there.

2018-10-13 04:28:08 UTC

Of course I am from one of two fully red states. And the only hat-shaped one.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/500525122235400193/OKhat.jpg

2018-10-13 04:28:31 UTC

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN My state flipped the entire election, chud.

2018-10-13 04:28:32 UTC

The truth is that we do want to MAGA. We just realize exactly what that means

2018-10-13 04:28:35 UTC

Where you at?

2018-10-13 04:28:51 UTC

@Deleted User Thank you for your service. Hold the line.

2018-10-13 04:28:56 UTC

o7

2018-10-13 04:29:18 UTC

To be honest, no, I don't see it as a massive improvement, because illegals are a very small factor in the equation for when we become a minority. Do I see it as a small improvement? In some cases.

I'd go as far to say that civic nationalism can be a destructive force at times, because it creates a false sense of security. "lol we stopped illegal immigration we can get complacent now while legal immigrants replace us"

I'm not arguing that we should be edgelords and alienate civnats, I'm arguing that we should try to move them to our side rather than just become them.

2018-10-13 04:29:40 UTC

Amish gang rise up

2018-10-13 04:29:50 UTC

I love the Amish

2018-10-13 04:30:26 UTC

I'm a bit biased on this since I've had a lot of bad experiences with civnats, including Proud Boys literally collaborating with Antifa to dox me

2018-10-13 04:30:39 UTC

@Jacob whoa, that's bonkers!

2018-10-13 04:30:52 UTC

Ya, I'm not making that up, and I'm willing to elaborate if needed

2018-10-13 04:30:56 UTC

I believe you.

2018-10-13 04:31:04 UTC

@Jacob Nobody here is arguing that we should become civnats. If, however, gaining real power and influence within institutions like the GOP requires it, we should pretend to be on an individual level though perhaps

2018-10-13 04:31:16 UTC

White Taqiyya

2018-10-13 04:32:08 UTC

You know what I mean.

2018-10-13 04:32:22 UTC

MAGA in the streets, something else in the sheets

2018-10-13 04:32:27 UTC

I would rather not become what I despise...

2018-10-13 04:32:29 UTC

I'm OK with a strategic alliance with civnats for now, but of course don't just capitulate to them, actively try to bring them to our side

2018-10-13 04:32:44 UTC

@TMatthews A lot of people in this movement do argue that we should promote civic nationalism instead of identitarianism, and just kinda sit around and wait for civic nationalism to win out, and *then* promote identitarianism. We've had former IE members like this.

2018-10-13 04:33:03 UTC

former...

2018-10-13 04:33:25 UTC

I don't know, could still be some

2018-10-13 04:33:33 UTC

I.E. has the hard-earned privilege and responsibility of being the least-weird far-right group

2018-10-13 04:33:44 UTC

Look, I just think the whole "civnats are 80% there" talk is really dangerous

2018-10-13 04:34:00 UTC

Based laundry.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/500526599003701258/image0.jpg

2018-10-13 04:34:14 UTC

@Freiheit - CA Is that a flag, fren?

2018-10-13 04:34:21 UTC

Yeh

2018-10-13 04:34:27 UTC

@Jacob STOP BEING AN IDEOLOGUE, bro. **IDEOLOGUES ALWAYS LOSE** <- if you take anything to heart that I say tonight, take that with you.

Ideologues. Always. Lose.

The greatest political thinkers and strategists of all time worked within their political paradigm to achieve actual goals.

MAGA/Civnat is implicitly Identitarian - very obviously so - why else would the globalist elites be so afraid of it.

2018-10-13 04:34:33 UTC

@Jacob I don't agree with that model. That's part of why I opposed renaming IE something more American in a debate here before. What I mean is more that, for example, I'm an officer in my college republicans and couldn't have gotten there if I revealed my power level

2018-10-13 04:35:03 UTC

We shouldn't get complacent and think that civic nationalism will accomplish absolutely anything. The truth is, they're maybe 20% there at best, and they're destructive at worst. We should appeal to them, pretend to be them at times, but never assume they will accomplish anything alone.

2018-10-13 04:35:18 UTC

It's up to us to corral and harness that energy into something EXPLICITLY identitarian 10-15 years down the line

2018-10-13 04:35:27 UTC

@TMatthews Ya I agree that we should hide our power levels at times

2018-10-13 04:35:37 UTC

@Deleted User You make a valuable point. The radical / 'extreme' leaders of the past harnessed the spirit of their people *at their time*, and then slowly channeled it in directions.

2018-10-13 04:35:46 UTC

We should still talk to civnats at places like CPAC and push our ideals. We can help them in mainstream politics AND grow identitarianism simultaneously

2018-10-13 04:35:52 UTC

@Deleted User What do you consider being an ideologue?

2018-10-13 04:36:27 UTC

@Jacob Civic nationalism, instated TOMORROW. Would result in 11+ MILLION less central americans in our country with the snap of a finger.

2018-10-13 04:36:32 UTC

and then we press for more.

2018-10-13 04:36:49 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/500527308323684354/2Q.png

2018-10-13 04:36:57 UTC

Right, which is why I'd still vote for Trump given the choice

2018-10-13 04:37:15 UTC

I guess the big issue is the dynamic of negotiation itself. We're told to ask for more than we'll get. We ask for civ nat, get even less. If we ask for identitarianism, could we get civNat?

2018-10-13 04:37:37 UTC

Friendly reminder that Trump attacked Cruz very successfully in the primaries for expanding H1b. The average Republican wants less legal immigration

2018-10-13 04:37:53 UTC

The problem is, if we wait until later to press for more, these ideas will just be forgotten by that point. That's why we need to promote more *now*.

2018-10-13 04:38:25 UTC

It is such a delicate balance. How to open the Window without breaking it open or shutting it

2018-10-13 04:38:35 UTC

Promoting now lays a groundwork for hopefully going mainstream in the metaphorical tomorrow

2018-10-13 04:39:14 UTC

When communists were marching through institutions, they still had groups pressing for communism while they were creating front groups

2018-10-13 04:39:29 UTC

We should have front groups, but we should still be pressing for actual identitarianism

2018-10-13 04:40:05 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/500528128855113738/unknown.png

2018-10-13 04:40:30 UTC

@Jacob That's another reason a decentralized "broader movement" is good. I.E. is "good cop,"

2018-10-13 04:40:40 UTC

those completely unwilling to compromise (short term) are those who are completely unwilling to win.

2018-10-13 04:40:59 UTC

I'm obviously willing to compromise since I'm willing to vote for Republicans and all that. I just don't support the idea of pushing for civic nationalism in place of pushing for identitarianism.

2018-10-13 04:41:02 UTC

I haven't seen any uncompromising positions here. Just understandable anxiety.

2018-10-13 04:41:42 UTC

I would say that being uncompromisingly compromising is a little like being an idealogue, too.

2018-10-13 04:41:50 UTC

I would never say something like "don't vote for this guy he's not radical enough" or whatever

2018-10-13 04:41:58 UTC

The existence of our people is non-negotiable. Perhaps that makes me an ideologue. I am willing to work with people who don't quite get it though. This is too important to throw away potential allies

2018-10-13 04:41:58 UTC

Jus' sayin'.

2018-10-13 04:42:36 UTC

if you think 50% + of all Americans are going to be awoken to, or inspired by some completely obscure ideology coined by some french dude in the 1970's you're insane.

2018-10-13 04:42:56 UTC

There's no reason to fight over this. You don't NEED to take a hard position until you can DO something with it.

2018-10-13 04:42:58 UTC

We don't need to convert 50% of Americans, though.

2018-10-13 04:43:28 UTC

@Deleted User You don't have to call it "identitarianism", you just argue specific positions

2018-10-13 04:43:39 UTC

If we target political and financial elites, and sway enough of them, we win.

2018-10-13 04:43:54 UTC

I think a lot of this is out of our hands because the left can't control itself. Even if Soros were by some strange chance to overcome his tribal instincts and realize that the left has pushed too far, his rabid pets wouldn't stand down. The modern left is composed of the ultimate ideologues and they will only double down, thus radicalizing normies. We simply have to be ready to present an attractable alternative to them.

2018-10-13 04:43:59 UTC

We need power to exploit opportunity. Growing the organization is obviously what we all should focus on

2018-10-13 04:44:16 UTC

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Mate, nobody is fighting. Rigorous debate is the path to growth so long as it doesn't get personal.

2018-10-13 04:44:28 UTC

I want MORE of this manner of conversation.

2018-10-13 04:44:37 UTC

I've had much more success being explicit than pretending to be a civnat. People appreciate the honesty. Liberals can see through the whole civnat shtick anyway.

2018-10-13 04:45:04 UTC

If our job is to 1. grow, 2. develop our members, 3. support eachother and network, and 4. awaken as many people to white-well-being as possible. I think I.E. does that well as is. We just need more people and money, and well do those things more and better.

2018-10-13 04:45:34 UTC

Yeah, compromise should be a strategy, not a philosophy.

2018-10-13 04:45:50 UTC

yep

2018-10-13 04:46:05 UTC

Just hit the nail that I was beating around all night

2018-10-13 04:46:19 UTC

Ha ha! Glad to be of service.

2018-10-13 04:47:14 UTC

I like the rigorous debate. I haven't seen too much of that in here.

2018-10-13 04:48:23 UTC

Rules to IE debate:
1. Argue in good faith
2. Don't get personal
3. Don't get butthurt

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