I think the term is good because it makes people ask you what it is...

totally normal dude here, checking in.

@Deleted User Oh man

Didn't see that

where's the lie though? <:teehee:381917632359563264>

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he will **name the jew**

for **you**

I dont even know who his intended audience is

I did get a kick out of Little's "give Israel money to blacks" meme though. Could have been better used by a more temperent politician.

yeah that was pretty good

but dude jumped the shark real quick

oh my god, I've never actually seen the blimp, I'm dead 😂

I may have lol'd at that

Little’s idea was good, his content with said idea was bad obviously. Dude would have made international news if he had pulled it off

do a search for that website.

the one on the blimp

The blimp would have flown in full view of a baseball stadium of people assembled to watch a game on “Jewish heritage night”

and prepare to cringe.

why honeypot myself

@NateDahl76 wow. Almost like he's utterly incompetent.

I wonder if he draws all his motivation from the arabs cheering him on online

Ba'athism intensifies

@NateDahl76 Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if that's his encouragement/funding

tfw Russian bots aren't real but Iranians are...<:nervous:359009898115104770>

> wanting attention from arabs
> sanity

I'm going to be completely honest, there's terms I like better than "identitarian", but, we need to make compromises for now

those are?

"Identitarian" is probably the best for public use

@Asatru Artist - MD eh I don't want to make it sound like I'm promoting terminology that goes against IE standards

I hate all branding and marketing in general (so tiresome), but I recognize its importance in politics and culture and I accept I.E.'s current stance as the superior option of all available.

DM me...I'm just curious

I'm just saying I totally get the point of view that "identitarian" is awkward... but you should use it because it sounds non threatening

Nationalist.

oh ya that's a good one

but I still understand why IE leans more toward "identitarian"

Americans want to hear about safety, money, borders, etc. The root ideology can be identiartianism, but frankly I don't think it's what middle American average Joe types want to hear or will feel connection with.

eh, the argument on losing a sense of community is pretty strong

I actually think most people would be more responsive to issues related to identity than some boring economics stuff

Agreed, but it can be said without using vague metapolitcial terminology

Sure

Absolutely appeal to loss of community and what not I agree

I would probably lean towards using "identitarian" with people who are personally interested in politics and have the patience to let me explain what that means, while using something like "nationalist" for people who don't have the energy to sit through that

Or just don't use a label at all with some people, just go straight to ideas

"White well-being" is awkward but a good catch all. It can mean anything from nationalism to community support or anything in between.

i really liked "white well being" from No White Guilt (that's who i heard it from)

I would just say use Nationalist frankly, using these estblished ideological terms kind of railroads you into talking points whereas drawing from a large pool of generally right wing ideas or popular feelings and events will make us a bit tougher for leftists to pin down and a bit easier for people to sympathize with

"white well being" is non threatening and multivariate. Like JT's "white advocacy" (also good)

I think being explicitly counter revolutionary to the left is going to be far more effective than revolutionary to the right

"Identitarian" could appeal to more intellectual people

it sounds smart

also there's the people who are really into politics and know what it means

Lol.

Gotta say, I think AltRight is still the best term from a purely marketing perspective

Saying words to sound smart is kinda of a weird strategy because if they're actually "intellectual" they might just be unimpressed

hmm good point

Since CVille, we’ve been struggling to settle on a new term and nothing has stuck

That's because the term was killed

The brand was destroyed lmao

No one ever analyzes what ideology NAACP is. They just are the NAACP. Let's just be IE

I guess "identitarian" would be nice if it caught on, since "nationalist" has a bit of baggage, though "nationalist" had the advantage of being more well known. So, I would say use "identitarian" with people who are ready for it, and use "nationalist" with everyone else.

This is a great article, finally catching up on it in full

https://jacobitemag.com/2018/10/02/empty-realm/

@Jacob yeah and it could possibly catch on but I'm not really counting on it. The ideology is sound but I feel like the term just doesnt have much power especially in America

I think I pretty much agree with that

@Matthias I zoned out when the author got to Frankfurt school apologia. I know it is important to read the enemy's internal discussions but the Talmudry is so contorted.

Lord, make me an instrument of your will. Where there is injustice against my people may I bring right. Where there is error may I bring truth. Where my people despair may I bring hope. Grant that I may comfort my people rather than to be comforted - to serve them rather than to be served. For it is by putting the needs of my people before my own that I may best serve to secure the existence of my race and a future for White children. Good night, and peace be with you.

Lit

Blessed and Breadpilled

Rare NPC

At a certain point we need a name and to stick with it. Taking on "baggage" is just a function of its use in the passage of time

Anyone who listens to us for five minutes knows we're White Nationalists

Better to be who we are than scurry around looking for strange new words to euphemize it as if we're ashamed

@Singleton Mosby WV Not religious at all but that is easily something I could see myself saying in dark times

>Americans want to hear about safety, money, borders, etc. The root ideology can be identitarianism, but frankly I don't think it's what middle American average Joe types want to hear or will feel connection with.

That's probably true, but there's already a Trump movement addressing those issues. We can touch on them as well, but if we abandon our niche we'll become an ineffective version of the Proud Boys.

I really don't think there's an effective youth movement for the populist trump types. There's not a positive org for Anne Coulter and Tucker Carlson types. They all ended up in negative spaces like TPUSA. Tapping into that energy would yield us a larger membership and influence base especially if we're able to get on Tucker and what not regularly representing the youth aspect of the movement

Then we'd have to explain why we only allow Whites into the organization.

And if we opened the organization up to non-Whites, we'd lose most if not all of our current membership, and probably find ourselves with a dumber and less dedicated organization.

Never said open up to non whites

Bring conservatives to us not us to them

Use rhetoric and policies that will make non whites disinterested without being explicity white only

Or just flat out don't address it

That's ridiculous dude

I actually agree that we should tap into them

We should create front groups to do not

Well, given this organization's founding it's a bit late to try to trick people into believing we're something we aren't.

"boy I love milk, farmers markets, and craft beer" <-- this should dissuade nonwhites from coming

We should never dilute the real group

Goodnight ladies and gents.👏

Goodnight @hbutzer0511

We could do our explicit rheotric and slogans through college rep groups and other trump style groups

This sounds like 4D chess to break away from the stigma that comes from speaking sincerely about race and identity -- that's really not going to happen at this point, again, given the organization's history.

But just explicitly being an effectively revolutionary right group with an extremely obscure metapolitcial lexicon I just frankly don't see as getting incredibly far

Our purpose isn't just to network -- it's to send a message. If we're not speaking honestly about these issues, who will?

Sorry to hear you don't believe we'll succeed @Kingfish

I hope we prove you wrong.

Isn't membership growing?

If you're not explicit on race what is even the purpose of any of this

There's something to be said for avoiding fringe issues, using more American/Trumpian aesthetics, etc. -- but we're already doing that. As to the term identitarian -- I think it's good, but I'm not opposed to nationalist either.