Message from @Kingfish
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I wonder if he draws all his motivation from the arabs cheering him on online
Ba'athism intensifies
@NateDahl76 Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if that's his encouragement/funding
tfw Russian bots aren't real but Iranians are...<:nervous:359009898115104770>
> wanting attention from arabs
> sanity
I'm going to be completely honest, there's terms I like better than "identitarian", but, we need to make compromises for now
those are?
"Identitarian" is probably the best for public use
@Asatru Artist - MD eh I don't want to make it sound like I'm promoting terminology that goes against IE standards
I hate all branding and marketing in general (so tiresome), but I recognize its importance in politics and culture and I accept I.E.'s current stance as the superior option of all available.
DM me...I'm just curious
I'm just saying I totally get the point of view that "identitarian" is awkward... but you should use it because it sounds non threatening
Nationalist.
oh ya that's a good one
but I still understand why IE leans more toward "identitarian"
Americans want to hear about safety, money, borders, etc. The root ideology can be identiartianism, but frankly I don't think it's what middle American average Joe types want to hear or will feel connection with.
eh, the argument on losing a sense of community is pretty strong
I actually think most people would be more responsive to issues related to identity than some boring economics stuff
Agreed, but it can be said without using vague metapolitcial terminology
Sure
I would probably lean towards using "identitarian" with people who are personally interested in politics and have the patience to let me explain what that means, while using something like "nationalist" for people who don't have the energy to sit through that
Or just don't use a label at all with some people, just go straight to ideas
"White well-being" is awkward but a good catch all. It can mean anything from nationalism to community support or anything in between.
i really liked "white well being" from No White Guilt (that's who i heard it from)
I would just say use Nationalist frankly, using these estblished ideological terms kind of railroads you into talking points whereas drawing from a large pool of generally right wing ideas or popular feelings and events will make us a bit tougher for leftists to pin down and a bit easier for people to sympathize with
"white well being" is non threatening and multivariate. Like JT's "white advocacy" (also good)
I think being explicitly counter revolutionary to the left is going to be far more effective than revolutionary to the right
"Identitarian" could appeal to more intellectual people
it sounds smart
also there's the people who are really into politics and know what it means
Lol.
Gotta say, I think AltRight is still the best term from a purely marketing perspective
Saying words to sound smart is kinda of a weird strategy because if they're actually "intellectual" they might just be unimpressed
hmm good point
Since CVille, we’ve been struggling to settle on a new term and nothing has stuck
That's because the term was killed
The brand was destroyed lmao
No one ever analyzes what ideology NAACP is. They just are the NAACP. Let's just be IE
I guess "identitarian" would be nice if it caught on, since "nationalist" has a bit of baggage, though "nationalist" had the advantage of being more well known. So, I would say use "identitarian" with people who are ready for it, and use "nationalist" with everyone else.
This is a great article, finally catching up on it in full