they never learn

15 for thee, but not for me

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Imagine what a good place the dems would be in if they just ignored Trump, focused on issues like jobs and workers rights, tried to build up candidates who didn't make anti american gaffes every 10 seconds. My god, how easily would they walk into the white house?

Part of being a politician is being incompetent. To expect more of them is akin to expecting a chicken to soar like an eagle.

Ben Franklin wanted the nations bird to be a Turkey

Petition to have the national bird changed to a Turkey

✅ or❎ only pls

<:thinking_clown:590855640268668928> thatd be racist though

it would only make sense for the dems to do that if we assumed they weren't accountable to a higher authority

I think I'll probably join For Britain over UKIP if I'm honest.
For Britain is overall less cucked while UKIP can't even decide what it wants to do.
It's more democratic in my opinion, while never being part of one myself I don't see how not letting specific people join because they used to be in some party at some point is meant to represent the voice of the people.
The name is pretty obsolete come Brexit as well and I think they'll just look to get rid of Sargon once they elect some cucked leader.

Tbh after independence from the EU we could go for independence from China and the middle east

Oil and all that stuff

I'll wait and see to join any until after October, granted we leave then.
That and August with seeing who they decide to elect as Leader.

https://youtu.be/_m_ZkvzXes8

Trump is a born shitposter

tHeRe iS nO lEfTisT aGeNdA iN aNy cOmPaNy

That crowd is progressive as fuck

there's an Antifa member (on the far-right on the panel, holding a crossed-out symbol CM symbol), a vaguely ethnic dude (Hispanic? Indian?) next to the Antifa member, then there's a Hipster (two people to the left of the Antifa member), a Black woman (next to the Hipster), and a bulky dude who probably voted for Trump

Still strange how it coincides with #SendHerBack

"strange"

It's Marvel, it was planned just like Secret Empire was

Marvel's still salty as fuck that a Conservative is president

Hell, most of the mainstream industry (which is full of Lefties, as shown by Ya Boi Zach's vids) is salty as fuck about Trump.

At least the art....kinda makes it bearable?

It's a shame they dropped Carol's bust by like....10 sizes though smdh

AFAIK this phenomena in comics is called Comicsgate

Yeah.

I've been on the Twatter, IK what CG is

https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1152689420648308737

Jess phillips is watching a facist movie!

Politely you cunts https://i.gyazo.com/9644b143ca3b9bc2e3d22b3ac3c09bbf.png

Hawley gets blasted on Twitter

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jess.phillips.mp@parliament.uk ---- publicly available parliament.uk email

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Nice

Time to send sargons video

Just pretend like you just found out who Sargon is kek

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@UnScottable
>inb4 "Sargon's Discord Doxxes MP

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https://www.thedp.com/article/2019/07/penn-amy-wax-national-conservatism-conference-immigration-racism

Penn Law prof Amy Wax claims America is 'better off with more whites and fewer nonwhites'

Based Jew

Oi vey, protect her at all costs

The Moo Sahd is otw

who'd be driving my uber

the wiggers

wiggers dont work

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if u ask one what he do

he'd tell u `im aspiring rapper`

which means `living with my mom doing nothing`

he'd ask you if you want to buy some xanax

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yes

theu dont know how to drive

as a white person, i hate white trash even more then the average person

not many of them where im from

but ive seen some in merica

ye murica has a lot of them

Has anyone seen the academic agents new political compass

?

No. Did he eat the third biscuit and descend to immorality?

Lol he decided to simplify it by adding 5 more axes

Those are my results

>Puritan

fucking hell, man

Please don't run the USA, please

Is the biscuit question even in there?

Hey i am only 96% puritan

That is the moral axis

If you take the biscut you are a filthy moral degenerate

http://unpopular.academy/politicaltest

You can take the test there

I don't buy the Puritan/Libertine Moral scale they have

Why?

I didnt fully follow some of the statements, and might have answered some of them dfferently if I had.

Ya i think that they will be updating the questions

Still, it's very much AA.

Well, because I don't think "Puritan" vs "Libertarian" is a scale of morality in the first place. They aren't mutually exclusive things.

Yes it is. For context the more yellow the more rightwing

Liber**tine**

Yes and you can be Puritan and Libertine.

How could one possibly be both

Give an example

lets see.

They are literally antonyms.

"I personally don't like Gay Marriage personally, but marriage is something that the government should be involved in in the first place so.."

That is an issue of policy not morality

Wait

Libertarian is not the same as libertine.

Governments being involved in things they shouldn't be involved in is a policy of morality IMO.

How did you guys switch topics from shitty internet political tests to Anti Air defense in like 2 min?

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Puritanism simply means that you believe moral guidelines should be strictly adheared to and libertinism is the complete abandonment of those rules

It is not a question of public policy

I think @ryuplaneswalker is confusing terms.

by that metric meme dreamer then everyone is a puritan

because everyone has moral guidelines that "Should be strictly adheared too"

No they don't

They fuck they don't

Many people dont give a shit about the person ethics of others and dont have any particularly strong rules that they follow themselves

*personal

even anarchists have a moral guideline that drives their principles, that guideline being "Nobody should be able to tell me what to do ever, I Do what I want!"

That is the definition of libertinism

and they still have that Pure Moral Guideline.

and the Hardcore ones are as puritanical about it as the Pilgrims.

Is athism a religion?

Atheism

I would consider it such yes.

Not Organized maybe.

but it is still a belief about the composition of our cosmos.

In that case puritanism is a belief in positive moral guidelines

and everyone has positive moral guidelines

Libertinism has a single negative moral guideline

The idea that one's moral principles should not and indeed do not influence public life is literally insane

"i can do what I want" is not a positive moral guideline

yes it is

"You can't tell me what to do, it's immoral"

It is the rejection of moral guidelines

So?

Moral guidelines of who?

the person Reeing about being told what to do.

If you're rejecting, say, Stalin's moral guidelines

Then it's good

Unless you are Stalin 😛

Then it is bad

Well ye ofc

and that is where it all falls apart because the "Morality" of it is completely subjective.

If morality is subjective then you are probably a linertine

Linertine?

Wtf

Linertine

What the fuck is that you faggot

Lol libertine

Stupid autocorrect

Meme - Yet I came across in that as a "puritain"

Do you believe that strong sexual morals should be enforced using social but not necessarily government pressure?

If not then the test probably needs to be adjusted

This whole mess comes from the fact that at some point Eurofag intellectuals decided that man should be the one to dictate his own moral rules instead of following an assumed to be divinely mandated rule set. What that almost immediately lead to (though intellectually it took time to crystalize like that exactly) is the idea that every person's moral compass is inherently valuable and trying to societally "infringe" upon the alleged moral code of any given person is inherently evil. Thus you get the obvious situation wherein pedos are demanding pedo rights and, just in general, """""minorities""""" become the whole point of political debate. No one even thinks to propose that said minorities might just be wrong.

We have lost fear of consequence (of God, social rejection)

It's no longer an issue of the rules themselves, just the fact that they are *someone's* rules

no one asks weather the rule itself is good

because we don't even acknowledge that category as valid

The west is too afraid of another 30 years war I guess

fear of consequence is the whole control mechanism of social justice activists - what are you talking about?

but this is an obvious bandaid

Those types impose their code upon others

no society can remain coherent without a set of rules being at least somewhat clear and enforcable

and some rules are downright antisocial in and of themselves

society is not easy to have

it requires somewhat specific behaviors being wholesale banned

also, morals are highly subjective, only the very most basic of them are universally agreed upon and could be considered objective

They are puritanical to an extent but also reject any conception of objective morality and are entirely libertine when it comes to the choices people make that could potentially harm themselves

this statement u just made is at the root of SJWism

Were we able to trust the moral judgment of those around us, we wouldn't seek to formalise rules

that and anthropological meliorism

(which is the belief that humans inherently tend towards the good)

(in some way)

If you think fat shaming is bad and not good, it could be argued that you are puritanical but in reality your goal is to eliminate the implicit moral code that eating too much is immoral

This I do through fear of living with myself, being unable to tolerate my negative actions

Therefore you are a libertine

this is a moronic distinction

the only libertines are madmen

Yes but do you shame others for harming themselves?

at least in this sense

everyone does that

literally everyone

Aren't the libertines a band? Libertarians

Anyone who seeks to break the common moral order is a libertine

ok

but that doesn;t mean that they haven't got their own to enforce instead

"all is allowed" is just as much a moral code as "nothing is allowed"

They dont, they simply seek to overturn others

Libertarian, literally to live as one sees fit with respect to others, and to desire such rights to be extended to others

literally every action done by a person is subject to moral judgement

the only way to escape morality is not to exist as a moral subject

By the way this is a spectrum and not a pure binary

not doing x is still an action

as long as you are a moral subject

this is not something you can escape

Libertarian is not a moral stance it is a policy stance

ever

policy subject to morality...

it's an action

thus it is a moral consideration

It can be but it doesnt have to be

no

it is by definition

morality is the theory of proper behavior

It dient have to enforce morality

policymaking is a type of behaviour

Doesnt

done

it doesn't have to enforce morality, no

But policy is not behavior

but choosing not to enforce morality is still an act to be morally judged

When we can't trust others to make moral judgements for themselves, then we seek policy

policy is behaviour

gov chooses what to do

literally

This has nothing to do with the point i was making

in this case it chooses not to do something

which is also a choice

Libertines seeks to break or change the moral order puritans seek to uphold it

fine, but don't call libertines amoral or uninterested in morality

because all thye are by your definition is social revolutionaries

unhappy with the currently enforced moral order

@Meme Dreamer @juryrigging

it cut off the right side there for some reason

They are immoral or support immorality by definition

but thats what i got

immorality is subjective too

If you are a libertine immorality can be subjective

it's because morals are subjective

not really....

or at least - a great many of them are

to some degree

Not to a Puritan

at least when it comes to outliers. situations where there are outlying extremes of horrific actions

such as serial child rape

thts clearly immoral

Puritans believe in objective morals

Everyone believes in an objective moral.

(I think the confusion here might stem from the fact many ppl don't understand that government deciding not to have a rule on a given subject is ALSO it having a rule. Because gov has the monopoly on violence it also prevents other institutions from enforcing rules. So a rule that isn't state-mandated is not only unenforced, it is banned unless there is a gov institution that says it's not.)

even if that "moral" is "Don't enforce your morals on everyone else"

checkmate atheists

oh please

That is a negative moral not a positive one

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It's most obvious with contract law

Doom is a bastion of morality.

you have your core human nature values (which themselves vary quite a lot) then you have lots of rubbish - political correctness, an invented moral code. then you have devoutly religious people who think sex before marriage is immoral, etc

Atheists are more puritanical than most puritans

"OMG YOU CAN'T HAVE THOOOSE IN A PUBLIC PLACE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

contracts that are not enforceable are literally BANNED by definition. They have no legal power to them

they are not conrtacts

"OMG this dollar bill has the word GOD ON IT HALP I am being Opressed by this dollar bill"

thus - morals are subjective.

because the sovereign power will not allow for the punishment of their breakers

hell, even laws are subjective at this point although those are the one area which fucking shouldnt be

The existence of differing moral codes does not disprove objective morality