Message from @r-Tao
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Well ye ofc
and that is where it all falls apart because the "Morality" of it is completely subjective.
If morality is subjective then you are probably a linertine
Linertine?
Wtf
Linertine
What the fuck is that you faggot
Lol libertine
Stupid autocorrect
Meme - Yet I came across in that as a "puritain"
Do you believe that strong sexual morals should be enforced using social but not necessarily government pressure?
If not then the test probably needs to be adjusted
This whole mess comes from the fact that at some point Eurofag intellectuals decided that man should be the one to dictate his own moral rules instead of following an assumed to be divinely mandated rule set. What that almost immediately lead to (though intellectually it took time to crystalize like that exactly) is the idea that every person's moral compass is inherently valuable and trying to societally "infringe" upon the alleged moral code of any given person is inherently evil. Thus you get the obvious situation wherein pedos are demanding pedo rights and, just in general, """""minorities""""" become the whole point of political debate. No one even thinks to propose that said minorities might just be wrong.
We have lost fear of consequence (of God, social rejection)
It's no longer an issue of the rules themselves, just the fact that they are *someone's* rules
no one asks weather the rule itself is good
because we don't even acknowledge that category as valid
The west is too afraid of another 30 years war I guess
fear of consequence is the whole control mechanism of social justice activists - what are you talking about?
but this is an obvious bandaid
no society can remain coherent without a set of rules being at least somewhat clear and enforcable
and some rules are downright antisocial in and of themselves
society is not easy to have
it requires somewhat specific behaviors being wholesale banned
also, morals are highly subjective, only the very most basic of them are universally agreed upon and could be considered objective
They are puritanical to an extent but also reject any conception of objective morality and are entirely libertine when it comes to the choices people make that could potentially harm themselves
this statement u just made is at the root of SJWism
Were we able to trust the moral judgment of those around us, we wouldn't seek to formalise rules
that and anthropological meliorism
(which is the belief that humans inherently tend towards the good)
(in some way)
If you think fat shaming is bad and not good, it could be argued that you are puritanical but in reality your goal is to eliminate the implicit moral code that eating too much is immoral
This I do through fear of living with myself, being unable to tolerate my negative actions
Therefore you are a libertine
this is a moronic distinction
the only libertines are madmen
Yes but do you shame others for harming themselves?
at least in this sense
everyone does that
literally everyone