I come from a fairly left wing family

In fact i dont think i know a single hard core trump fan in real life

Why would you live in California?

Has anyone seen the academic agents new political compass

?

Lol he decided to simplify it by adding 5 more axes

Those are my results

You guys should take that academic agents new political compass test

http://unpopular.academy/politicaltest

Hey i am only 96% puritan

That is the moral axis

If you take the biscut you are a filthy moral degenerate

http://unpopular.academy/politicaltest

You can take the test there

Why?

Ya i think that they will be updating the questions

Yes it is. For context the more yellow the more rightwing

How could one possibly be both

Give an example

That is an issue of policy not morality

Puritanism simply means that you believe moral guidelines should be strictly adheared to and libertinism is the complete abandonment of those rules

It is not a question of public policy

No they don't

Many people dont give a shit about the person ethics of others and dont have any particularly strong rules that they follow themselves

*personal

That is the definition of libertinism

Is athism a religion?

Atheism

In that case puritanism is a belief in positive moral guidelines

Libertinism has a single negative moral guideline

"i can do what I want" is not a positive moral guideline

It is the rejection of moral guidelines

If morality is subjective then you are probably a linertine

Linertine

Lol libertine

Stupid autocorrect

Do you believe that strong sexual morals should be enforced using social but not necessarily government pressure?

If not then the test probably needs to be adjusted

They are puritanical to an extent but also reject any conception of objective morality and are entirely libertine when it comes to the choices people make that could potentially harm themselves

If you think fat shaming is bad and not good, it could be argued that you are puritanical but in reality your goal is to eliminate the implicit moral code that eating too much is immoral

Therefore you are a libertine

Yes but do you shame others for harming themselves?

Anyone who seeks to break the common moral order is a libertine

They dont, they simply seek to overturn others

By the way this is a spectrum and not a pure binary

Libertarian is not a moral stance it is a policy stance

It can be but it doesnt have to be

It dient have to enforce morality

Doesnt

But policy is not behavior

This has nothing to do with the point i was making

Libertines seeks to break or change the moral order puritans seek to uphold it

They are immoral or support immorality by definition

If you are a libertine immorality can be subjective

Not to a Puritan

Puritans believe in objective morals

That is a negative moral not a positive one

The existence of differing moral codes does not disprove objective morality

Are you retarded?

Objective morality means that there is one definitively correct set of morals regardless of whether everyone believes it or not

Most believers of obejective morality believe they come from god

Is there something you arent getting through your thick skull? I am not arguing for the position just explaining the difference between a puritan and libertine perspective

You are clearly missing my point

@system11 you seem to still not know what obective morality even means

@system11 most humans living today belive in objective morals (or at least purport to based on religion polling)

Just because people subjectively believe in different moralities does not proclude the possibility of a single metaphysically correct morality

All of these tests are innacurate and simplistic but i find them fun none the less

They are also likely going to rewrite many of the questions

@system11 you are clearly retarded

Poor brainlet cant understand the difference between advocacy of a position and neutrally explaining it

Of couse you think the idea of objective morals is a social construct if you believe that morality is fundimentally subjective what else could it be

I have spoken to several anarcho syndicalists and all of those types of ideologies are completly utopian and almost incoherent

Anyone going to the viginia gun rallies?

In what way?

My guess is that the media will do it's best to completely ignore it

Charlottesville for exactly into a media narrative and they were egging it on

Not this

Are the organizers legit?

Why are you posting your DNA results?

idk

why should i

yes