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2019-07-11 22:05:57 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

i support anything that hurts silicon valley

2019-07-11 22:06:54 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

the moral high ground is worth fuck all if you're being lined up and shot

2019-07-11 22:08:10 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

amazon are infamous tax dodgers

2019-07-11 22:09:03 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

dodging tax and running sweat shops appears to be the limit of amazons evil, they dont seem to have a big horse in the control of culture race

2019-07-11 22:10:00 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

the ones that need to be broken up first are the ones expected to widely interfere in elections and society

2019-07-11 22:10:28 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

amazon isnt even in the top 10 for that

2019-07-11 22:12:12 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

true

2019-07-11 22:13:27 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

i wonder if post brexit theyll lower VAT, that tax is a pile of garbage

2019-07-11 22:16:13 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

side note: i'd like to see epic taxes on offshored labour

2019-07-11 22:16:58 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

offshored, not outsourced

2019-07-11 22:22:08 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

you could delete facebook, twitter, instagram in their entirety overnight and little of value would be lost

2019-07-11 22:22:50 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

deleting google overnight would pretty much destroy the internet, parts of it alone less so. ditto amazon, you have no idea how much DNS is handled by route 53

2019-07-11 22:24:30 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

what does "heavy UX" even mean?

2019-07-11 22:24:50 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

we had working window managers in the 80s.

2019-07-11 22:25:16 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

web browser in the mid 90s

2019-07-11 22:26:36 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

thats easy, x-window based IRC existed decades ago

2019-07-11 22:26:46 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

MIRC for windows is pretty ancient

2019-07-11 22:27:50 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

most UI/UX bloat is crap layered on crap so that theres a new product to sell or to support lavish websites that are barely usable

2019-07-11 22:28:31 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

no, ive seen normal people struggle with (for example) windows 10

2019-07-11 22:28:55 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

or the labyrinthine mess which is chrome now

2019-07-11 22:29:38 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

all browsers are shit, currently - you have to pick the one broken in ways that bother you the least

2019-07-11 22:29:54 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

the question is what you mean exactly by 'SV'

2019-07-11 22:30:39 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

you couldnt nuke it without significant fallout, but if your focus is social media you absolutely could hit the big DELETE button right now and people would get by

2019-07-11 22:32:06 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

youtube is much harder to replace, there are no viable alternatives

2019-07-11 22:32:27 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

but twitter we could delete right this minute

2019-07-11 22:32:49 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

name a viable youtube alternative

2019-07-11 22:33:14 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

videos which are less watched can essentially die on bitchute

2019-07-11 22:35:51 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

bitchute also lacks a working monetisation model, so killing youtube would kill anyone who creates video content for a living and cant afford to set up their own streaming server

2019-07-11 22:36:11 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

it still works for some people

2019-07-11 22:36:42 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

the cheap housing is all in the north where the jobs arent

2019-07-11 22:37:29 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

the government dont at this time truly care about the housing problem

2019-07-11 22:38:01 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

you could kill steam no problem without too much trouble

2019-07-11 22:38:22 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

yes you can - you can absolutely blow that fucker away

2019-07-11 22:38:34 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

web shops allowing downloads are not a new or complex thing

2019-07-11 22:39:20 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

theyd get over it, the majority of gamers wouldnt even notice

2019-07-11 22:40:17 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

it wouldnt be the end of the world by any means

2019-07-11 22:40:57 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

you could very easily just use an alternative electronic software purchasing platform - in fact some game creators do anyway

2019-07-11 22:42:10 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

no it wouldnt, thats ridiculous.

2019-07-11 22:42:28 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

immediately all the big publishers would just stick up shop fronts and downloads

2019-07-11 22:42:43 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

indies would switch to the many, many alternatives

2019-07-11 22:43:26 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

steam just isnt that big of a deal, its just a convenience, and pc gaming is a minority anyway

2019-07-11 22:44:35 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

you dont need a storefront launcher - lets take an example. i can go to sony and they have whats called a "web site", and i can buy vegas which is a big chunk of data, and it "downloads" and i can install it.

2019-07-11 22:45:23 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

the value of steam is not the purchasing, its the marketplace, the shop window

2019-07-11 22:46:54 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

the drm is a somewhat valid point - i depends how its done. calling home regularly is bullshit. license keys and an install time check are fine with me

2019-07-11 22:49:34 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

the pc market is smaller than consoles, and both are dawrfed by mobile - that's why im fairly chilled out about someone deleting steam. people would find solutions, at the end of the day it you could easily build a web site publishers and indies could simply list titles with screenshots and shop links

2019-07-11 22:50:42 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

right, so you agree it's easily replaceable? 😉

2019-07-11 22:51:27 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

steam also doesnt feature really high in the sources of evil anyway

2019-07-11 22:52:19 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

they don't support the commodore 64 either. fuck steam.

2019-07-11 22:53:18 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

rolling incompatability is a feature of PC gaming, you just have to accept it

2019-07-11 22:53:37 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

wut

2019-07-11 22:54:05 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

i probably own/play more retro games than the entire discord server put together, and even i wouldnt go as far as 'new games r shit'

2019-07-11 22:55:36 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

that's not actually true

2019-07-11 22:55:49 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

at some point youre forced to leave old systems behind

2019-07-11 22:56:44 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

try to buy a SHA1 SSL certificate so you can support clients that don't support SHA256. just see who will sell you one

2019-07-11 22:57:47 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

steam are definitely not immune to political posturing - remember 'Hatred'?

2019-07-11 22:59:43 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

ah i didnt realise theyd reinstated it

2019-07-11 22:59:52 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

it was rubbish btw

2019-07-11 23:00:52 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

im having problems now accessing websites from my XP laptop, i cant get a new browser for it

2019-07-11 23:01:22 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

and yes i know my xp laptop is obsolete, that one is a special case as it runs eprom programmer software that doesnt work on anything newer

2019-07-11 23:06:27 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

the trouble is steam library functionality dies as soon as theres no working client, so you can never delete anything. thats not steams fault, you should back up your machine

2019-07-11 23:08:03 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

well im going to play a game now. at least this convo was more fun and less dumb than, for example, media matters articles on how tim pool is right wing

2019-07-11 23:08:15 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

nothing touches leftivists for dumb takes.

2019-07-11 23:15:10 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

im dreading windows 7 end of life

2019-07-11 23:16:01 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

i dont think win10 will run on my main laptop, and win 10 is a dumpster fire anyway

2019-07-11 23:16:45 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

i mean the out of support for OS updates EOL, not sure when that is

2019-07-11 23:17:10 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

yeah im sure MS will force the issue soon

2019-07-11 23:17:40 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

if it had already happened i wouldnt have pending security updates from microsoft

2019-07-11 23:18:30 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

my laptop is 9 years old so not sure if win10 will even work on it. it was top of the range at the time and i cant find -anything- available with a screen as good

2019-07-11 23:19:12 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

its the nvidia display hardware id worry about

2019-07-11 23:19:35 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

the screen is a 17" matte 16:10. just try to find anything with that

2019-07-11 23:19:55 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

thats why i never replaced the laptop, ive replaced a few parts here and there

2019-07-11 23:21:14 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

is there a bootable dvd win10 'tester'?

2019-07-11 23:21:50 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

shame. i suppose the only way to test it would be to sling a spare hard drive in

2019-07-11 23:23:01 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

yeah id rather not break it, i have one of the old drives. its a raid supporting system and i replaced the twins when one died and put a single SSD in

2019-07-11 23:25:05 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

if it cant take win 10 ill have to find linux alternatives for a few things and do that

2019-07-11 23:26:55 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

ive been using linux so long i made my own distro back in the slackware days. i dont use it because i have to use speech recognition software and it behaves better on windows

2019-07-11 23:27:16 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

dont use it at home*

2019-07-11 23:27:45 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

that and the unholy hell which is current desktop offerings. what a damn mess

2019-07-11 23:28:08 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

one of those times 'everyone doing their own thing' just hurts the platform

2019-07-11 23:34:07 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

not really, my girlfriend is computer illiterate, i built her a desktop machine, she just uses firefox and some awful flash games

2019-07-11 23:34:18 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

it just works

2019-07-11 23:35:10 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

yes, that can be a thing

2019-07-11 23:37:05 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

thats the worst analogy ive seen this week

2019-07-11 23:37:34 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

you're likening applications to frameworks that support applications

2019-07-11 23:38:12 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

it isn't even in the same ballpark.

2019-07-11 23:39:48 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

no it isnt, you dont need game 'launchers' at all, you just require a way to download the installer. now if someone decided to write their own html version and you needed a special vendor specific browser to download it, then you'd have an analogy to work with. that isnt what i suggested or anyone would do though in the case of steam

2019-07-11 23:40:41 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

and its a million miles away from basic shit like "oh, my entire windowing toolkit doesn't work"

2019-07-11 23:42:17 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

only ones you bought via that proprietry delivery system. you can still buy games on dvd. you can still buy software from the makers on shop sites, etc. is steam your entire gaming life or something? its the only way you could come up with such a myopic analogy

2019-07-11 23:42:44 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

definitely strayed into 'lol whatever', ill get back to my game

2019-07-18 01:22:28 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

is it a cult?

2019-07-19 19:45:14 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

im not on board with tomahawking iran, we really need to be pushing terminator robots to avoid damaging all the historic architecture they havent knocked down as blasphemyyet

2019-07-19 19:46:19 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

i thought this iran spat had already burned itself out when trump decided not to waste money on a missile

2019-07-19 19:46:38 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

ah

2019-07-19 22:50:00 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

look at the full post

2019-07-19 22:50:20 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

he went on to say how its good not to demonise people while demonising ukip in the very next sentence

2019-07-19 22:51:10 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

it takes real skill to not realise you've been a massive hypocrite in the space of just 3 sentences

2019-07-20 13:34:07 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

*from labour remainers

2019-07-20 13:36:12 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

it's the perfect story of how ugly many remain backers are behaving

2019-07-20 13:36:30 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

shes a remainer, in a leave area, being bullied for not supporting a second referendum

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