Message from @Meme Dreamer

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2019-07-21 23:16:40 UTC  

What the fuck is that you faggot

2019-07-21 23:16:44 UTC  

Lol libertine

2019-07-21 23:16:53 UTC  

Stupid autocorrect

2019-07-21 23:17:08 UTC  

Meme - Yet I came across in that as a "puritain"

2019-07-21 23:18:29 UTC  

Do you believe that strong sexual morals should be enforced using social but not necessarily government pressure?

2019-07-21 23:19:01 UTC  

If not then the test probably needs to be adjusted

2019-07-21 23:20:14 UTC  

This whole mess comes from the fact that at some point Eurofag intellectuals decided that man should be the one to dictate his own moral rules instead of following an assumed to be divinely mandated rule set. What that almost immediately lead to (though intellectually it took time to crystalize like that exactly) is the idea that every person's moral compass is inherently valuable and trying to societally "infringe" upon the alleged moral code of any given person is inherently evil. Thus you get the obvious situation wherein pedos are demanding pedo rights and, just in general, """""minorities""""" become the whole point of political debate. No one even thinks to propose that said minorities might just be wrong.

2019-07-21 23:21:32 UTC  

We have lost fear of consequence (of God, social rejection)

2019-07-21 23:21:42 UTC  

It's no longer an issue of the rules themselves, just the fact that they are *someone's* rules

2019-07-21 23:22:04 UTC  

no one asks weather the rule itself is good

2019-07-21 23:22:22 UTC  

because we don't even acknowledge that category as valid

2019-07-21 23:22:46 UTC  

The west is too afraid of another 30 years war I guess

2019-07-21 23:22:51 UTC  

fear of consequence is the whole control mechanism of social justice activists - what are you talking about?

2019-07-21 23:23:01 UTC  

but this is an obvious bandaid

2019-07-21 23:23:37 UTC  

Those types impose their code upon others

2019-07-21 23:23:39 UTC  

no society can remain coherent without a set of rules being at least somewhat clear and enforcable

2019-07-21 23:24:15 UTC  

and some rules are downright antisocial in and of themselves

2019-07-21 23:24:39 UTC  

society is not easy to have

2019-07-21 23:24:58 UTC  

it requires somewhat specific behaviors being wholesale banned

2019-07-21 23:24:59 UTC  

also, morals are highly subjective, only the very most basic of them are universally agreed upon and could be considered objective

2019-07-21 23:25:30 UTC  

They are puritanical to an extent but also reject any conception of objective morality and are entirely libertine when it comes to the choices people make that could potentially harm themselves

2019-07-21 23:25:35 UTC  

this statement u just made is at the root of SJWism

2019-07-21 23:25:38 UTC  

Were we able to trust the moral judgment of those around us, we wouldn't seek to formalise rules

2019-07-21 23:25:45 UTC  

that and anthropological meliorism

2019-07-21 23:26:25 UTC  

(which is the belief that humans inherently tend towards the good)

2019-07-21 23:26:29 UTC  

(in some way)

2019-07-21 23:27:06 UTC  

If you think fat shaming is bad and not good, it could be argued that you are puritanical but in reality your goal is to eliminate the implicit moral code that eating too much is immoral

2019-07-21 23:27:16 UTC  

This I do through fear of living with myself, being unable to tolerate my negative actions

2019-07-21 23:27:16 UTC  

Therefore you are a libertine

2019-07-21 23:27:39 UTC  

this is a moronic distinction

2019-07-21 23:27:47 UTC  

the only libertines are madmen

2019-07-21 23:27:50 UTC  

Yes but do you shame others for harming themselves?

2019-07-21 23:27:54 UTC  

at least in this sense

2019-07-21 23:28:07 UTC  

everyone does that

2019-07-21 23:28:11 UTC  

literally everyone

2019-07-21 23:28:19 UTC  

Aren't the libertines a band? Libertarians

2019-07-21 23:28:38 UTC  

Anyone who seeks to break the common moral order is a libertine

2019-07-21 23:28:49 UTC  

ok

2019-07-21 23:29:01 UTC  

but that doesn;t mean that they haven't got their own to enforce instead

2019-07-21 23:29:38 UTC  

"all is allowed" is just as much a moral code as "nothing is allowed"

2019-07-21 23:29:42 UTC  

They dont, they simply seek to overturn others