Message from @Meme Dreamer
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"I personally don't like Gay Marriage personally, but marriage is something that the government should be involved in in the first place so.."
That is an issue of policy not morality
Wait
Libertarian is not the same as libertine.
Governments being involved in things they shouldn't be involved in is a policy of morality IMO.
How did you guys switch topics from shitty internet political tests to Anti Air defense in like 2 min?
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Puritanism simply means that you believe moral guidelines should be strictly adheared to and libertinism is the complete abandonment of those rules
It is not a question of public policy
I think @ryuplaneswalker is confusing terms.
by that metric meme dreamer then everyone is a puritan
because everyone has moral guidelines that "Should be strictly adheared too"
No they don't
They fuck they don't
Many people dont give a shit about the person ethics of others and dont have any particularly strong rules that they follow themselves
*personal
even anarchists have a moral guideline that drives their principles, that guideline being "Nobody should be able to tell me what to do ever, I Do what I want!"
That is the definition of libertinism
and they still have that Pure Moral Guideline.
and the Hardcore ones are as puritanical about it as the Pilgrims.
Atheism
I would consider it such yes.
Not Organized maybe.
but it is still a belief about the composition of our cosmos.
In that case puritanism is a belief in positive moral guidelines
and everyone has positive moral guidelines
Libertinism has a single negative moral guideline
The idea that one's moral principles should not and indeed do not influence public life is literally insane
"i can do what I want" is not a positive moral guideline
yes it is
"You can't tell me what to do, it's immoral"
It is the rejection of moral guidelines
So?
Moral guidelines of who?
the person Reeing about being told what to do.
If you're rejecting, say, Stalin's moral guidelines
Then it's good
Unless you are Stalin 😛
Then it is bad
Well ye ofc