Message from @Meme Dreamer

Discord ID: 602638663813169162


2019-07-21 23:00:30 UTC  

"I personally don't like Gay Marriage personally, but marriage is something that the government should be involved in in the first place so.."

2019-07-21 23:00:55 UTC  

That is an issue of policy not morality

2019-07-21 23:01:10 UTC  

Wait

2019-07-21 23:01:11 UTC  

Libertarian is not the same as libertine.

2019-07-21 23:01:17 UTC  

Governments being involved in things they shouldn't be involved in is a policy of morality IMO.

2019-07-21 23:01:43 UTC  

How did you guys switch topics from shitty internet political tests to Anti Air defense in like 2 min?

2019-07-21 23:01:54 UTC  

ADD Tonight

2019-07-21 23:03:42 UTC  

Puritanism simply means that you believe moral guidelines should be strictly adheared to and libertinism is the complete abandonment of those rules

2019-07-21 23:03:56 UTC  

It is not a question of public policy

2019-07-21 23:04:40 UTC  

I think @ryuplaneswalker is confusing terms.

2019-07-21 23:05:16 UTC  

by that metric meme dreamer then everyone is a puritan

2019-07-21 23:05:35 UTC  

because everyone has moral guidelines that "Should be strictly adheared too"

2019-07-21 23:06:49 UTC  

No they don't

2019-07-21 23:07:29 UTC  

They fuck they don't

2019-07-21 23:08:48 UTC  

Many people dont give a shit about the person ethics of others and dont have any particularly strong rules that they follow themselves

2019-07-21 23:08:59 UTC  

*personal

2019-07-21 23:09:14 UTC  

even anarchists have a moral guideline that drives their principles, that guideline being "Nobody should be able to tell me what to do ever, I Do what I want!"

2019-07-21 23:09:44 UTC  

That is the definition of libertinism

2019-07-21 23:10:17 UTC  

and they still have that Pure Moral Guideline.

2019-07-21 23:10:48 UTC  

and the Hardcore ones are as puritanical about it as the Pilgrims.

2019-07-21 23:10:53 UTC  

Is athism a religion?

2019-07-21 23:11:01 UTC  

Atheism

2019-07-21 23:11:15 UTC  

I would consider it such yes.

2019-07-21 23:11:32 UTC  

Not Organized maybe.

2019-07-21 23:11:43 UTC  

but it is still a belief about the composition of our cosmos.

2019-07-21 23:11:54 UTC  

In that case puritanism is a belief in positive moral guidelines

2019-07-21 23:12:24 UTC  

and everyone has positive moral guidelines

2019-07-21 23:12:26 UTC  

Libertinism has a single negative moral guideline

2019-07-21 23:12:52 UTC  

The idea that one's moral principles should not and indeed do not influence public life is literally insane

2019-07-21 23:12:58 UTC  

"i can do what I want" is not a positive moral guideline

2019-07-21 23:13:05 UTC  

yes it is

2019-07-21 23:13:13 UTC  

"You can't tell me what to do, it's immoral"

2019-07-21 23:13:13 UTC  

It is the rejection of moral guidelines

2019-07-21 23:13:20 UTC  

So?

2019-07-21 23:13:32 UTC  

Moral guidelines of who?

2019-07-21 23:13:54 UTC  

the person Reeing about being told what to do.

2019-07-21 23:14:11 UTC  

If you're rejecting, say, Stalin's moral guidelines

2019-07-21 23:14:18 UTC  

Then it's good

2019-07-21 23:14:48 UTC  

Unless you are Stalin 😛

2019-07-21 23:14:52 UTC  

Then it is bad

2019-07-21 23:14:56 UTC  

Well ye ofc