Do you believe that masses attract

Aka you to the earth

** well no becouse earth is not a globe**

It doesn't matter the same of the earth silly

I haven't even mentioned the earth yet

you did

Do you believe that masses attract

show me proof mass attracts

Drop an apple

Or anything

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*or your GPA*

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YOU BROKE MY PHONE

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Well uuuh

WTH

Gravity broke it not me XD

you told me to drop it 😦

Oof

Well your phone was attracted to where there was mass

Aka big boi earth

Whatever shape it is

EARTH BROKE MY PHONE

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NOW I BELIEVE EARTH IS GLOBE

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XD

@Violet (QT) they are like P-waves and spawn a monotonus rhythm in time with the Earths gravitational pull meaning the water is in a constant motion of being vibrated and pulled, the angular rotation creates a constant which causes the water to change from each direction due to Newton’s 3rd law, causing a larger change in he landscape of the construction

So you agree that gravity exists

Yes it does, I never said it didn’t

So how do you think it works

It's the earth moving up at 9.8 m/s

Wouldn't it hit into the sun then

On your model

The earth is flat due to the burning of the sun in the early stages of life in the universe, destroying the circular shape of the Earth

you mean its being accelerated at 9.8m/s2

Well then it would hit into the sun faster

No, it's not accelerating, it's moving at a constant speed

@45dom that's not how reletivity works

Also, the sun is moving too

if it is moving constant speed upwards, it would be like standing in a train

And what's making them move

Nobody here is an actual flat earther

surely

Everything is moving away from us at a constant speed

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@Souls so the sun is too?

*acceleration

@Deleted User I am

Bruh

@Violet (QT) yes

explain how the earth is fkat

You are all retarded

There is no flat earth

^

lul

explain how this shit is flat

@45dom this is actual truth

@Souls so your saying that the distance between the sun and the earth is increasing

its decreasing

No as we are moving at the same rate as well

oh my lord

Everyone here has autism

Do you understand relativity

Everything in the universe is moving away at a constant rate

Away from what @Souls

but it has no acceleration, you would just be able to fly

Due to the force applied in the Big Bang, causing the universe to be ever expanding

@Finsie did u ever do science?!

So you agree that the earth is round or?

I mean are you talking flat earth bs or actual science

Both apparently

^

because if your excuse for gravity is the earth moving upwards at a constant speed, then idk what science is

Hang on a Minuit

How tf

Do you people

Explain the sun

Where does it go

No, I am just saying that the whole universe is flying away from each other at a constant rate, creating an ever expanding universe

As long as it is above you it's cant go over the horizon

Look ignore the flat earth bit, do u agree that everything is moving away st a constant rate?

Yes

But not constant

Wdym?

It's speeding up isn't it

No

either speeding up or slowing down

The expansion of the universe is speeding up

either the universe is expanding, or collapsing again

@Finsie aah big bounce XD

I like that theory

Ok it is accelerating, sorry

Dw

For my facts wrong

Mixing up constant and construction acceleration

Autocorrect

Nah I just didn’t know it was speeding up

K

/slowing down

No just speeding up

Ok i am back , if you say mass attracts why, then why my eg. Phone doesmt attracts idk ants

because their mass is to little

And would globe like object collapse on its self then ?

the globe isnt hollow, things in the centre of the earth are being compressed together, which is why it is liquid lava

, the pressure is heating up the materials down there

Yes and then why doesnt it collapse on its self

I mean

why doesnt your chair break when you sit on it?

I am not fat?

idk you tell me

?

Get burned

Huh

just go fill a balloon with rocks

it wont collapse

Yeah uh did that once , broke my cousins arm

But if u put a rock on the ballon it will collapse

it will then yeah lol

And if u add all the stuff added on the Earth by humans it should collapse

Yes it collapses into flat ballon which means earth is flat

^

I know this since i was 6 y.o my priest told me

oh shit I was lied to my whole life

Yes

As well as me

And this whole group

This group is my home

Becouse its not round ^^&

Okay ill stop messing around , ofc earth is flat lol

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chat here since it's easier to have a discussion

Ok

so for my view I'm a support of decentralizing resource production

think like those people who go off grid

do that, but for everyone

then link everything up to distribute resources where needed

something like those communal smart grids for electricity

I see

the only thing that anarchism *needs* to be a thing is nonviolence

as it's the foundation of the ideology

everything else can vary, so diferent anarchists have different ideas for how things should go

How would you guys prevent a group of people from taking over without military or police?

that's largely been the main problem with anarchism. That non-anarchists do not have the same valuing of peace, and will attack

historically what has happened was violence in self defense by anarchists to protect the anarchist way of life

and indeed today we generally see the main struggle is anarchists living as anarchists, and then being harassed by police

I see

unfortunately anarchism differs from most ideologies in that it doesn't use violence as enforcement

only as self defense

which means that to get to anarchism, you have to have people willing to opt into it

rather than a violent takeover

Also how would you guys agree on which kind of anarchism to use? since you said you all have different views of anarchism

generally speaking, anarchism allows people to live how they please, provided you don't harm others

so in practice there will realistically be a variety of different optional structures people use

but the main guiding factor that will be followed is whatever means were used to arrive at anarchism

so in the model I support, it'd be a gradual reduction of reliance on government and capitalism

and a switch to the system I talk about and advocate for

the model I support is generally more resiliant to attacks and attempts at takedowns as well

so if you take down only a part, the rest will work around that automatically due to how it's structured

so to take down an anarchist society that I describe, you'd have to take down the whole thing at once

since it wouldn't be centralized

So how do you plan on convincing people to follow anarchism?

a better way of living

people already stray towards anarchism when capitalist systems fail

if they can't afford food they "steal". instead of buying tv and movies and music they just pirate them

if they can't afford a home they squat

I see

poor people, on average, are much more supportive of leftist resource distribution, which can really help facilitate anarchism

this is why anarchists and communists typically work together

so while an anarchist is *opposed* to a central authority providing healthcare for all, we see it as superior because it's a way of opting out of the capitalist model of buying healthcare

So what if both anarchists and communists rose to power worldwide together?

that's the other big struggle within anarchist politics

how would it be possible to defend from the communists?

it's happened a few times now

where both work together to achieve an egalitarian society

and then the communists afterwards oppress anarchists to push their model of government

usually communism at that point then turns into a dictatorship, is corrupted, and ends up with capitalism again

So this happened in soviet russia?

this is why the "overthrowing the state alongside anarchists" never works

right

you can see it wherever communists start getting power

anarchists support because the progress is beneficial to us

and then communists fuck everyone over once in power

this is why I'm supportive of "weening off" the reliance of state+capitalism

Also, how would you explain the opposing of the leftist ideologies in Russia nowadays?

rather than trying to overpower and overthrow it from the inside

right so in russia what had happened was that communists got into power

and power naturally corrupts (which is why anarchists oppose it)

they switched leaders at one point iirc

and eventually they ended up being corrupt and turning into a dictatorship

after that people saw that communism wasn't working

black markets popped up

and they grew in support

we see this same process happening in north korea right now

they're migrating from communism to capitalism

I see, so the anarchists need another ideology to grow in power, but then this same ideology who helped them destroys them?

exactly

so anarchists have traditionally had two routes to our ideology

the first is the one I just described. help communists, then when in power dissolve government/ownership

the second is what you see in the middle east and places like egypt

a violent revolution, usually alongside communists and disgruntled capitalists

the problem is that it ends up with a power vaccuum, and a dictator takes the stand for people to follow

so basically: tear down and become a dictatorship, or build up and become communist then a dictatorship

and dictatorships with ownership and communist distribution give rise to black markets and capitalism

hence the horrible cycle anarchists find ourselves in

i see, so you guys basically have no way to rule without becoming a dictatorship?

not quite

so the issue is that since ownership is still in place, that naturally leads to capitalism no matter the route

communists support ownership due to their economic model

which is why it always collapses

the problem historically is that anarchists have not yet dismantled the ownership expectation

under capitalism it's impossible to do

under communism the only way to do it is through government changes

So didnt any anarchist think about a violent uprising, for a "greater good"?

right, that's why we got the second route of tearing things down

the idea is to just overthrow government and reject it's power

but given societal expectations and ways of living, it still results in capitalism

Oh

so the modern anarchist solution is to instead adopt alternative ways of living

that don't rely on ownership

this is *very* difficult to do right now under capitalism

but ideally we should be going the way of offgrid people (who are usually libertarian) along with making individual communes and smaller communities

so far it's not going too well

because trying to replace all infrastructure is very expensive

and not too many people support it just yet