Why is a creator limited to flat earth? I think that a creator can exist even with this model.

The globe earth is part of the big bang and evolution theories

Without the globe, those things cannot be true

Gtg for a bit

i only believe in some evolution, but the missing link is that our DNA was manipulated by celestial gods who came to earth.

these gods were extraterrestrials

So, like intelligent design but by aliens?

That's a new religious belief system the governments and mainstream are pushing

Zero evidence for that

Its not a religious belief system, its based on an examination of ancient sources.

A belief system.

There are no deities, there are no rites, there are nothing that resembles a belief system. Look it up in a dictionary.

Like Christianity or any religion

It's a belief system

Examination of ancient sources doesnt say our DNA was manipulated by aliens

Alright, we agree to disagree, you believe that its a belief system, with apparently no system in place, wonder why that is, and i know its not.

Tell me why .

Ancient Astronauts theory isn't really credible imo

Its not.

Altho they push it on History channel

To further push ppl from god

Or a designer

Or creator

Even tho the mainstream academics accepts it to be pseudoscience, yet a mainstream channel promotes it. Weird, huh

Which makes more sense

There is good explanation.let me find it

Alright, @EzkealSutekh has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

wait why cant i say s***

Bad word

well thats weird

How is it a bad word

Not sure I dont think I blocked it

are you the admin?

I'm the owner

alright, yeah that was what i wanted to say, i dont see how its bad in that context

do you think it was a bad comment

No

I'll take a look at the bot in a bit

Sorry about that

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The God of the bible is not effec ted by time, space or matter. If He is effected by time, space or matter, He is not God. Time space and matter is what we call a continuum, they all came into existence at the same instance. Because if there were matter with no space, were would you put it? If there were matter and space but no time, when would you put it? You cannot have time, space or matter independently, the have to come into existence simultaneous. The bible answers that in 10 words.

In the beginning (time) God created the Heaven (space) and the Earth (matter)

So you have time, space and matter created the trinities of trinities there just as
TIme is past, present and future.
Space is length, width and height.
Matter has solid, liquid and gas.

You have the trinity of trinities created instantaneously and the God who created them has to be outside of them. If He is limited by time, He is not God. The God who created this computer, is not in the computer. He is not running around in there changing the numbers on the screen. The God who created this universe is outside of the universe. He is above it, beyond it, through it. He Is unaffected by it.

So for the concept that a spiritual force cannot have any effect on a material body, well then I guess you would have to explain to me things like emotions and love and hatred sbf envy and jealousy and rationality. If you brain is just a random collection of chemicals that formed by chance over billions of years, how on Earth can you trust your own reasoning process and thoughts that you think?

So the question, where did God come from, is assuming a limited God.

And that's your problem.

The God that I worship is not limited by time, space or matter.

If I could fit the infinite God in my three pound brain, He would not be worth worshipping, that's for certain.

A good explanation of God and how it probably would work

Bottom line is we wouldn't be able to comprehend God

Not in our space or time

He would be above all that

Beyond it.

Well, maybe there is a god, but as for now that is also a belief system dont you think? But even if there is a good, why would aliens not be able to be a part of this world? He could have created the world and aliens perhaps created us. It sounds like the god you are describing created a simulation, that is why god would be outside of time space and matter.

A bit like the architect in the matrix

Y can u not see the sun at night on the flat earth

Im not a flat earther, but its probably because its on the other side of the globe

Yea more then likely

Most flat earthers answer that it only lights up half of the earth using a campfire or something as an example, but u can see a campfire outside of the area that is being lit up

A sun would light up each side of a flat earth instantly, but it doesnt.

Yea

U should also be able to see the ice wall if u went on a high mountain and got a telescope

@tha cheeseburger the sun is close

And

Does not change the fact that night should not be a thing

And light disappears as it gets farther from you

?????????

Yes it's called light and optical slant

That top one is on a globe

The top one is on a flat earth with a dome.

So the sun is like a flashlight

https://youtu.be/UmgcJuMSTxQ

And directs it's light?

https://youtu.be/8w0_Oxc1A90

https://youtu.be/xdBR3tDXyVw

Just like in real life.

K u should still be able to see the sun just not be in the area lit up

As for your claim you could climb to a high mountain and see the icewall

@Citizen Z the sun directs it's light?

Incorrect

@Ninja8flash its light isnt infinite due to its proximity or reflection

?

Its proximity to the surface

Oh

Is the sun inside or outside the firmament?

Dont know.

But then it would be sorta just like dim

Also if you go to the point where is gets dark and just move back and forward it should be able to see the sun and then not see it then see it then not, by that logic

On the other side

You can see the sun if you move forward more

Well, it wouldn't make sense if it was inside, light only reflects like that when it's passing through a density barrier

If you move back you lose its light

But if there's nothing outside the firmament, what would the sun be moving in?

But that does not happen

Inside the firmament

So the light goes and then just stops?

These are guessing questions

Only way to see the sun after it goes down is to go up

Or forward

Lol

It can't be within the firmament, the light refraction you showed us only works when the light passes through a density barrier

Or move really fast

Like in a plane or something

I can just step into the light and it appears

Onto next question