Message from @pretextos
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I see
unfortunately anarchism differs from most ideologies in that it doesn't use violence as enforcement
only as self defense
which means that to get to anarchism, you have to have people willing to opt into it
rather than a violent takeover
Also how would you guys agree on which kind of anarchism to use? since you said you all have different views of anarchism
generally speaking, anarchism allows people to live how they please, provided you don't harm others
so in practice there will realistically be a variety of different optional structures people use
but the main guiding factor that will be followed is whatever means were used to arrive at anarchism
so in the model I support, it'd be a gradual reduction of reliance on government and capitalism
and a switch to the system I talk about and advocate for
the model I support is generally more resiliant to attacks and attempts at takedowns as well
so if you take down only a part, the rest will work around that automatically due to how it's structured
so to take down an anarchist society that I describe, you'd have to take down the whole thing at once
since it wouldn't be centralized
So how do you plan on convincing people to follow anarchism?
a better way of living
people already stray towards anarchism when capitalist systems fail
if they can't afford food they "steal". instead of buying tv and movies and music they just pirate them
if they can't afford a home they squat
poor people, on average, are much more supportive of leftist resource distribution, which can really help facilitate anarchism
this is why anarchists and communists typically work together
so while an anarchist is *opposed* to a central authority providing healthcare for all, we see it as superior because it's a way of opting out of the capitalist model of buying healthcare
So what if both anarchists and communists rose to power worldwide together?
that's the other big struggle within anarchist politics
how would it be possible to defend from the communists?
it's happened a few times now
where both work together to achieve an egalitarian society
and then the communists afterwards oppress anarchists to push their model of government
usually communism at that point then turns into a dictatorship, is corrupted, and ends up with capitalism again
So this happened in soviet russia?
this is why the "overthrowing the state alongside anarchists" never works
right
you can see it wherever communists start getting power
anarchists support because the progress is beneficial to us
and then communists fuck everyone over once in power
this is why I'm supportive of "weening off" the reliance of state+capitalism
Also, how would you explain the opposing of the leftist ideologies in Russia nowadays?
rather than trying to overpower and overthrow it from the inside
right so in russia what had happened was that communists got into power