**Jude 22 - English Standard Version (ESV)**

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<22> And have mercy on those who doubt; ```

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chat here since it's easier to have a discussion

Ok

so for my view I'm a support of decentralizing resource production

think like those people who go off grid

do that, but for everyone

then link everything up to distribute resources where needed

something like those communal smart grids for electricity

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the only thing that anarchism *needs* to be a thing is nonviolence

as it's the foundation of the ideology

everything else can vary, so diferent anarchists have different ideas for how things should go

How would you guys prevent a group of people from taking over without military or police?

that's largely been the main problem with anarchism. That non-anarchists do not have the same valuing of peace, and will attack

historically what has happened was violence in self defense by anarchists to protect the anarchist way of life

and indeed today we generally see the main struggle is anarchists living as anarchists, and then being harassed by police

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unfortunately anarchism differs from most ideologies in that it doesn't use violence as enforcement

only as self defense

which means that to get to anarchism, you have to have people willing to opt into it

rather than a violent takeover

Also how would you guys agree on which kind of anarchism to use? since you said you all have different views of anarchism

generally speaking, anarchism allows people to live how they please, provided you don't harm others

so in practice there will realistically be a variety of different optional structures people use

but the main guiding factor that will be followed is whatever means were used to arrive at anarchism

so in the model I support, it'd be a gradual reduction of reliance on government and capitalism

and a switch to the system I talk about and advocate for

the model I support is generally more resiliant to attacks and attempts at takedowns as well

so if you take down only a part, the rest will work around that automatically due to how it's structured

so to take down an anarchist society that I describe, you'd have to take down the whole thing at once

since it wouldn't be centralized

So how do you plan on convincing people to follow anarchism?

a better way of living

people already stray towards anarchism when capitalist systems fail

if they can't afford food they "steal". instead of buying tv and movies and music they just pirate them

if they can't afford a home they squat

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poor people, on average, are much more supportive of leftist resource distribution, which can really help facilitate anarchism

this is why anarchists and communists typically work together

so while an anarchist is *opposed* to a central authority providing healthcare for all, we see it as superior because it's a way of opting out of the capitalist model of buying healthcare