Machines are still too stupid to handle anything as massive as Youtube.

Part of the point, really.

But, I mean

they're able to set up algorithms that can demonetize a video before it's even fully uploaded

Co-incidently was the point of the sub-narrative of "Hey Kids" an AI trying to make a kids show and failing.

so, if they're able to do that, categorizing a video as potentially troubling shouldn't be too much of a problem, right?

I don't think I'm anywere near ready to trust the machines yet

Just watch in 2 months all cat videos are gonna be slammed for sexual content cause the AI has the IQ of a lobotomite.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/04/07/the-critics-must-be-crazy-ready-player-one-doesnt-glorify-toxic-nerd-culture/#a9c78141886c

is....is that what I think it is?

A positive and accurate article related to gaming on a news website....ON FORBES?!!?! I thought it was just a legend.

@everyone

People are joining our official America First's 4chan thread

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/167509162

"it will just turn into a proxy war guys" https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983720452412575744
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/983683054815272961?s=19

great, more refoogees

Shill your cupcakes

you know i actually kind of agree with that article from tim's video today. just that i dont agree with the prediction from it. that person writing that article might be the most woke person on the left alive right now if they actually recognize the polarization of the country and the subgroups of people who make up both sides of the conflict. though i disagree that a war is nessicary to deal with this though it is the american way. i think most people would actually prefer a segragation between the ideologically incompatible sides within the nation. the left isint going to win a civil war though, they won the first one because they had the advantage, it was really only a matter of time and their own incompatence mixed with the tanacity of the right at the time lead to it being drawn out far longer than nessicary in asymetrical warfare. the left rose to power during the great depression because they could offer answers to peoples needs to get things done that no one else could. FDR was basicly the american hitler, or lenon, or mussalini (ever think about how many regime changes occured during the great depression?) and trump is kind of the 21st century's FDR as a populerist.

its kinda delussional to think that the us is becoming more left, not many people are saying that and at the same time winners usually dont call for less cooperation with the loser, they usually dont see that being nessicary consitering it makes them look bad

The dems are winning in so far as there has not been that many good candidates for those oppose to the left to really rally behind.

thats pretty much all of politics, theres just no "good" candidates so its a race to avoid rock bottom

I think that people need to become more moderate, and that the blurring of the lines is happening, albeit slowly

there will always be die-hard cast folk who want nothing to do with any ideal held by group X

you can't really get past it; it's one of those `team` style things

most people ARE moderate,
due to social media the extremist level partisans just managed to not be "a single idiot",
And the media reinforces that "theres more than you think" delusion by reporting on it because they know it sells,
and as a result, you have those in power actually believing it, and making changes accordingly

Well, that's the point I made before

You've got the initiated on each side that are loyal to their party, or their ideals, and then you've got the uninitiated majority that go the path of least resistance

The left is winning the culture war by making right-leaning ideas unacceptable.

For instance, you can see this in places like John Oliver, where people are outraged that 'Crisis Pregnancy Centers' are trying to 'trick' people into not having abortions.

well, its because the left has the "moral highground"

People want to "be good"

and the majority are naive enough to think that others actually care

liek that these hollywood celebrities actually care that much about society/environment

if you want to "be good" you have to use your brain and not blindly follow the idiots that yell the loudest

no, thats being right

people would rather be good than be right

and you are good, if you have people say you are good

left, right, center, extreme, or moderate. the question is if people feel like they can get what they want with negotiation still. once you have a state of being where society is divided up between people who will accept only zero compramise their only option left for getting anything they want is force or disassociation. no amount of optomism changes this, deescolation seems to these people to be weakness, like your trying to get them to cave in and lose what they are fighting for, it doesent work nomatter how nice it would be if it id because deescolation doesent offer a solution, it just trys to keep the people who are supose to be working together for a solution from killing eachother before the solution is found. if the nation ever gets to the point it can no longer be the united states, then it would be better off not being the united states anymore less you have needless bloodshed in the name of "solidarity"

i say let the left and right have their own countrys, then they can do things their own way and prove their ideologys as successful or not and avoid killing eachother needlessly

thats extremism, No middle ground, no compromise, just either with us, or the enemy


Also, splitting up like that won't work, you'll just get the exact same issue again, the world WAS split liek that (West - Right) (East - Left/Soviet)

both sides slowly switched to the center, and then flipped to the other side

the fix is actual rational conversation

Have people talk, and actually learn that the majority of the Other side shares so much in common, and then build on that

the silent majority needs to speak out against no compromise, and take action. Politicians, if you can prove you have enough voters on your position to maybe swing elections, are easy enough to manipulate. But you can't be silent.

you will get those issues again

but we do tend to get the same issues again and again

im just offering something less bloody in the middle

'The majority' is silent and passive. They are not a factor in the world of politics.

the majority just wants to be left alone

and if they want to be left alone, they need to speak up now or end up in a world where they are never left alone

the majority are all those things, but i think also the majority agrees with someone. not as a whole, but every person agree with someone. if the majority never agreed with someone you wouldent be able to have wars with so many people involved instigated by these extremist groups who cant stand to live with eachother. they eventually command the middle to kill eachother in order to get to their opponents

boiling frog issue,

They want to be left alone, but its not happening fast enough 😦 so they don't get shocked into action

if you bulkanize a region based on incompatible ideological groups, what you do is give them a completely different situation they have to deal with other than simply fighting with their opponents to get what they want and ultimately never accomplish anything due to the balance of power. you get many more people who agree with eachother in the position to actually do something about their own existance and then you as a person can choose which side you want to live in.

weve lived to long in a state of "we wont try anything until everyone agrees to it"

at some point you need to let people do what they want, extremism comes from people having ideas in a system they have no hope to ever see those ideas ever be applied. the ideologically neutral world we currently live in kind of suppresses any idea from being consittered and leaves ideas to sit festering, growing more and more toxic until they choose to get what they want or die trying

that just sounds like SJW'ism 101,

What i want isn't being done! so i'm being oppressed

im discribing how people are not whether it is a good or bad thing that they are like this. as far as im conserned thats irrelivent, people dont care what you think of them when they think they need to do whatever it takes to get what they want

a, right, my bad then

i thought you were suggesting it as a solution 😛

it is a solution

well, a bad one

you have a better one to deal with people who dont accept compramise and also make up half your population?

yes

implement a constitution based on what everyone agrees on,

And give the rest the freedom to do what they wish provided it doesn't hurt/affect other people

people dont agree on anything

the only way youll get them to agree on anything is by having a different constitution for each side, in which case why not have a different country for each side?

because at that point you might aswell resort to full blown anarchy,

Because amongst those people who don't agree with side A, you'll have disagreement

So side B will want to split to side BA and BB
And those will want to split into BAA and BAB, BBA and BBB, and so forth

besides theres most certainly things people can agree upon

youll have disagreement but you wont have absolute non comprise

this is why states should have more power than the do, and the feds less.

because the big issue with your solution is that Futurama incident, "Lets show others of our peaceful ways, by force"

people don't like it in state A? move to state B.

to say that people who are on one side who dont always agree with eachother will disagree with eachother just as much as they disagree with everyone they see as an opponent is a bit silly

if half the people can find a compromise, then the entire people can to, so you're refuting your own argument from earlier

humans are the wrench in any human made system designed for humans.

thats just wrong jayred

Arch-Fiend - today at 20:47
people dont agree on anything

@I AM ERROR Yes, the 'moral high ground', as in marching to saves the lives of children from guns (but then marching to kill (future) children through mass subsidized abortion. 😉

so all the other things dont matter because i said one thing whithout enough context?

the context follows right after

i think what i think speaks clearly enough for myself that i dont have to explain that statement

it does, i'm just pointing it out

it contradicts

trying to make such a system static is just asking for it to be broken. You need to design a system to be fluid, while still maintaining general cohesion. Get the nation to agree upon something, even a majority, and its likely not to happen. Get a whole state to agree on something, there is a small but noticeable chance. a whole county, there is a decent shot, and a whole town there is a good chance.

im not going to argue over it

i'm glad we agree on that

but i would say, the grand majority would agree on actual things,
"Don't murder people" would be one i'm sure both left and right can agree on as a law

nope

Yes, get people to all support the most "common sense" things, like being opposed to terrorists (but then not criticizing people groups like Antifa that are on the terror watch list)

@Dr.Wol depends on how you define murder

if the person is "a nazi", the left would say go for it

"We're against bad things and for good things."

so no, they don't even agree on murder

murder, killing people that do no direct harm i would guess?

the nuances around any basic principle to societys is where different ideologys usually debate. any that actually debate the basic principles are so extreme that we dont even talk about them

but i fear in the current climate, even separating the people in different countries wont work :(

One side will want to kill the other country because "Their existance threatens ours"

i do legitamently think california less it has some big catastrophy soon where it threatens their population growth, may choose to leave the union and it will have a good defense against the rest of the usa by population alone

like how Antifa would attack a guy in a wheelchair

Because 1 person in a wheelchair threatens the entire trans community + antifa and stuff

doesn't california have to import water?

Yeah.

there is a decent number of people in California who don't like California, if it tried to leave the union it would either have a decent amount of people leave, or there would be its own kind of civil war and see part of it return.

Only California can still be in a drought after it rains for a week.

doesn't the constitution state that you cannot seperate?

end up with California and like east California or something

every constitution is only paper thick

i'm not sure on the laws of the US federation, afaik they can't leave,

And if they do, they're too dependent on the other states to survive

Even if it does, which I don't think it does, you're going to tell a population that they can't separate themselves from you rule? How is that not tyranny at that point?

How are we different from Russia?

the fact you think we're different than Russia is mistake nr.1

I'm not saying we are.

I'm just pointing out for the sake of comparison.

like it doesent really matter, when has a law stopped someone from breaking a law?

you are though

i do believe there is a method to legally leave the union but i may be wrong, and that doesn't mean the government will uphold it

The average person thinks the US is different from Russia, so I was speaking on those terms.

Don't tell me what I think or believe, please.

the law isn't there as a shield that prevents stuff,
Its a piece of paper that lets you know what you shouldn't do if you don't want government response

californias dependency on the states is kind of holding them back more than anything else but they could try to solve that problem

the us is different from russia like the head of a coin is different from the tail

@JadenFrostwolf you mean me? i was not trying to tell you what you think, i was stating that the US is different from Russia

i meant my statement more as a general "those that think we're different from Russia" not directly at "You, jadenfrostwolf, why do youthink thissssss"

i also kinda just want california to be its own country

Alright.

like i dont wanna live with them anymore xD

https://newcaliforniastate.com/

relevant

to be fair, they should,
Then the rest of the states can declare war, conquer it, remove the SJW's and illegals, and re-annex it back

they would be a better country that depends on the usa to survive than actually being able to influince our elections

eh its not that simple, 22 million sjws is hard to get rid of

"Statement of Intent
The Citizens of New California have decided to remedy the abuse of power by the government of California by exercising their right to form a new state provided in United States Constitution Article IV Sections 3 and Section 4."

yeah i like new california too, but not as much as no california

that is a split of california into two states isn't it?

"Statement of Facts: The people of California are suffering from a tyrannical state government which fails to provide a republican form of governance, enables and supports across it’s southern border the invasion of the United States of America by illegal foreign nationals and protects vicious criminals who commit outrageous acts of violence upon the Citizens of America. All caused by a government of and for a mono party system lead by a tyrannical dictator."

i do enjoy them

place is beautiful dont get me wrong, but i hate the people there. their contempt for everything valuible culturally and moraly to me is beyond tolerable to me

i like their map, that shows only like a few places as still being California

https://newcaliforniastate.com/new-california-map

i like mexico more than california

mexico atleast has good art

What's the difference? <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

mexicans work harder than californians lets be frank

wait, combined this with that article from yesterday

and i must preference i mean costal californians

if this new California passes, and Cali sets the trends, does that mean in 15 years the US will double the number of states, lmao

most of cali is full of decent people but the population centers have half the population in only 1/5 the geography

to be fair, if new california passes, it will ensure Republican rule for the next generation

because the dems will lose their biggest voting state forever

part of me likes republican rule but im already getting tired to trump

hes been a real dumbass this year

will they? i mean, wouldn't what remains of the old cali still be most of the population in that state as is?

lets face it, we all knew trump was gonna be a buffoon. Its really the next person people are interested in

new california will be redder than any state in the union though because thats what happens with political divides

trump didn't win, Hillary lost.

there is a difference

new cali might become more Texan than Texas

i really wanna get out of the middle east, that place is a fucking hole

the only time they unite, is to fight foreigners.

they are perfectly capable of killing each other without our help

they were doing that just fine before then

on that front

theres nothing i care about there, yeah the history is nice and all that archeology is cool but god damn if it isint just the most meaningless war weve ever been in

we should never have gone to middle east in the first place

maybe we need an antiwar march

i'd vote to help build a wall around it

we havent done one of those in forever

right now, anti-war is sexist

xD

WAIT! lets get the sjw's together to call our involvement in the middle east Islamophobic,

maybe then we will stop dumping money into there

also screw paying for the wall, just nuke the area, get rid of all the middle east,

Fix the islam issue,
Fix the migrant flow
Fix the oil dispute (cuz the radiation wil keep anyone away until we replace fuel)

something everyone rallys behind would help

....or it will go from military spending to "foreign aid" spending

i mean i cant point to a single person who isint in the government who actually wants us to be in the middle east

@Dr.Wol won't keep away russia tho

true, they'll just send an army of gopniks

except one retard i know in australia who thinks neoliberalism is gods gift to economy

they live off radiation like super mutants

but i agree with you guys,

4chan should become pro-war for Syria

that way, CNN will report on it

i think the main reason lots of republicans dont do an anti-war march is that they will have a problem doing anything that would ever be seen as anti-military. a pro-military anti-war thing is kinda what we need

and the entire left in America will become anti-war again

i think being anti-war is pretty pro-military, keeps our soldiers alive

tbh, a pro-isolationist movement is what America needs,

You still need a military to defend your borders,
Stop being the world-police, it will save lives and money

and you can continue trading

sort of anti-interventionalist

yeah

but also just less whining about what other countries should be doing

just look out for your own interests

like pretty much every country should be doing

EU should do it too

thats why i said isolationist, pretty much you "Y'all crazy idiots can blow each other up, just keep US out of it"

i think if the us pulls back the world will go to war with itself. which i dont actually think is a bad thing, i think weve just been preventing 100 years of countrys acting in their own interest

well they should, let the extremists and warmongers kill each other

if the us pulls back, the EU will implode

good

i'm tired of the EU as is, their forceful acceptance of enriching peaceful cultures is shitting us over

no more US supplying security, they will be forced to pay more for their own military, which means more of a money drain on them

yes

so either they become less socialist or just become unstable

and with that, they'll no longer be "oh we got money, we can afford these migrants"

They'll actually have to focus on their own people

actualyl do some work

cuz people here are under the impression somehow

that we can't work together unless we're all the same union

as opposed to just working together as allies

man that was poorly worded by me

working together as individual countries, instead of a single collective?

because being "allies" is bad after that whole, axis vs allies, situation.

instead we must be mega countries

much better

yes

we fought a mega country,

Only to form a mega country

@Grenade123#5490
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https://www.axios.com/how-the-law-limits-the-national-guards-border-role-45660b12-b678-4eb9-92a5-734e5b872a74.html

@Miss Direction why did you try and tag me with this stuff?

"Grenade123 - 04/03/2018
put the national guard on the border. At least they might get some experience in something, rather than eat donuts and then be called in to pull people and dead bodies out of flooded buildings the next time a hurricane hits"

If I remember wrong, that was connected to other statements related to something more than just that. But regardless, did you tag me just to make a point that they are or was there another reason?

No, I merely meant to inform you.

Ah, thank you.

Why all the archive thinks? Avoiding giving the sites traffic?

No, I archive news-articles whenever I read them, out of habit.

Humans exists as creatures-of-habit, so I forced myself to archive any article I read for six months & now I hardly notice doing it.

Ah

I hereby dub Jugs the server Historian.

Unofficially, of course.

Anyone ever think how weird it must be for dogs and cats to see us react to going into a dark room?

Like, they see us walk in and then suddenly stop and start fumbling around for seemingly no reason.

it makes them think of us how all dogs and cats do

the dogs think "They brave the dark and defeat it for me, they must be gods"
the cats think "They brave the dark and defeat it for me, i must be a god"

Yes I wish this would spread to Western Europe, North America and the Antipodes. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/far-right-views-going-mainstream-in-much-of-central-europe/2018/04/03/7cd83978-3741-11e8-af3c-2123715f78df_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8cc56501752c

Do you ever wonder why we're here?

just to suffer

It’s one of life’s great mysteries isn't it? Why are we here? I mean, are we the product of some cosmic coincidence, or is there really a God watching everything? You know, with a plan for us and stuff. I don’t know, man, but it keeps me up at night.

...what?
I mean why are we out here, in this discord?

ooooooh, right...

~~i would post something but i forgot the line from red vs blue~~

@Danky don't worry, i forgot the exact line too.

so i googled it

isn't it "Whats all that stuff about god?"

by simmons

or did they switch to Tucker and Church by then? i forgot

oh i remember

there is, i think, at least 2 different versions of the "why we're here"

they switch to tucker and church in the epsilon memory

if i remember it correctly

i dunno i stopped following it after that AI collection story

i stopped watching after season 10

season was a good send-off

why did they even continue

money

oh right

I don't remember when I stopped watching. I should catch back up with it.

too much to catch up on these days

I don't remember much of what happened in the later seasons.

there was a bit of a meh couple of seasons before they started to get interesting again.

i like season 6 to 10

it was an interesting experiment

their animation got better and better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Q8t7K6Sas

Styxhexenhammer666 is going to run for Governor of Vermont.