i'm not sure on the laws of the US federation, afaik they can't leave,

And if they do, they're too dependent on the other states to survive

Even if it does, which I don't think it does, you're going to tell a population that they can't separate themselves from you rule? How is that not tyranny at that point?

How are we different from Russia?

the fact you think we're different than Russia is mistake nr.1

I'm not saying we are.

I'm just pointing out for the sake of comparison.

like it doesent really matter, when has a law stopped someone from breaking a law?

you are though

i do believe there is a method to legally leave the union but i may be wrong, and that doesn't mean the government will uphold it

The average person thinks the US is different from Russia, so I was speaking on those terms.

Don't tell me what I think or believe, please.

the law isn't there as a shield that prevents stuff,
Its a piece of paper that lets you know what you shouldn't do if you don't want government response

californias dependency on the states is kind of holding them back more than anything else but they could try to solve that problem

the us is different from russia like the head of a coin is different from the tail

@JadenFrostwolf you mean me? i was not trying to tell you what you think, i was stating that the US is different from Russia

i meant my statement more as a general "those that think we're different from Russia" not directly at "You, jadenfrostwolf, why do youthink thissssss"

i also kinda just want california to be its own country

Alright.

like i dont wanna live with them anymore xD

https://newcaliforniastate.com/

relevant

to be fair, they should,
Then the rest of the states can declare war, conquer it, remove the SJW's and illegals, and re-annex it back

they would be a better country that depends on the usa to survive than actually being able to influince our elections

eh its not that simple, 22 million sjws is hard to get rid of

"Statement of Intent
The Citizens of New California have decided to remedy the abuse of power by the government of California by exercising their right to form a new state provided in United States Constitution Article IV Sections 3 and Section 4."

yeah i like new california too, but not as much as no california

that is a split of california into two states isn't it?

"Statement of Facts: The people of California are suffering from a tyrannical state government which fails to provide a republican form of governance, enables and supports across it’s southern border the invasion of the United States of America by illegal foreign nationals and protects vicious criminals who commit outrageous acts of violence upon the Citizens of America. All caused by a government of and for a mono party system lead by a tyrannical dictator."

i do enjoy them

place is beautiful dont get me wrong, but i hate the people there. their contempt for everything valuible culturally and moraly to me is beyond tolerable to me

i like their map, that shows only like a few places as still being California

https://newcaliforniastate.com/new-california-map

i like mexico more than california

mexico atleast has good art

What's the difference? <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

mexicans work harder than californians lets be frank

wait, combined this with that article from yesterday

and i must preference i mean costal californians

if this new California passes, and Cali sets the trends, does that mean in 15 years the US will double the number of states, lmao

most of cali is full of decent people but the population centers have half the population in only 1/5 the geography

to be fair, if new california passes, it will ensure Republican rule for the next generation

because the dems will lose their biggest voting state forever