adding an option to disable them in game

and get accused of being sexist?

lol

lets face it, its how things would play out. neither side would be happy

true

but it would've been easier to "debate" the detractors in that case

guess they could have added "disable males too":

Know what they could have did?

Sorry, it was a bug.

but still it seems like "all wives of male characters in factions which have female generals can then be generals" seems like a real quick way to take a like a 10% spawn rate and make it easily feel like 30% or higher.

But heres a setting that allows you to set it if you want it "realistic"

i don't think its much of a debate to call to CM an idiot who probably should be pulled from PR

true

though apparently the male birth rate is set to 65%

for married couples in the game

strangely enough

so that decreases the chances of female generals even more

does it? or does that actually increase it relative to random spawn pools?

the random spawn pool is different to the birth rate

or so i'm told

well yes, but if the random spawn is only like 10% or something, but the birth rate is up at 35%

does that not mean you have more like a 25% chance or something of getting female generals?

with both combined yes

but you mostly use generals from your own family to increase your own influence

at least you should

in which case, you tend to try and marry of family members quicly

which does increase the female rate in a way

if you have male family members

hold on, if you have 65% males, and you marry them off, suddenly you now have at least 50/50 possible generals no? "all wives of male characters in factions which have female generals can then be generals"

of that 65%

though, the marriage functions is independent to the spawn rate

well, females start off as stateswomen

politicians

you have to willingly recruit them

well the problem is not that they are generals, is that they can be generals, is it not?

wait 65% is the birth rate of males of married characters

*male children

do your children never grow up to be married off?

ye

nah just me being anal about the phrasing

true the option of females being generals is part of the issue

okay, so here is what i am getting at: if a faction allows female generals, then all wives *can* generals, meaning they show up as a recuitable option. Then if you have 7 male children, and 3 female, and marry them off, then you have at least 7 females and 7 males in your pool to pick from, or 10 and 10 if husbands of female children, and the female children themselves can be generals.

ye

is there a mechanic i am missing going from children to married to pool you can pick a general from?

characters cannot become statemen until they are 16

well, i'm assuming if you wait until they can be generals and they live that long.

and statemen is when you can do political actions or become a general

okay

ye you're more or less good on that previous point

i assume your pool for picking generals is a mix of random and children of the controlling faction correct?

nope

oh wait nvm

i think i read that wrong

the total pool, as in all your options for picking a general

ye

as well as the other families/partuies

*parties

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEcCXjTKdaY

are all these families part of the same faction? or do they come from different factions

and then the random 3 statesmen that you can choose that spawn randomly that you can choose to hire

so do you have part of your pool be from a faction that can't have female generals?

yes they are part of the same factions

though there can be new ones forming, or old ones dying out

why y'all talking about vidya gaems here

@Atkins related to news farther up

It started as an article

way way farther up

And they are discusing it

@ThePoshBarbarian and the ability to have wives be generals started with that recent update?

the parties from your faction work as your faction

or has that been around for a while now

as such, say if you are playing rome, then your rival roman politicals parties shall work as romans

even if they have names like "egyptian nobles"

only in the recent updates

yeah the base game sucks btw

a lot of bugs and poor mechanics might i add

okay. and what i was getting at, while you can hire from faction x, if faction x doesn't allow female generals, could you hire the wife like you could if it was your faction, faction y. Who rules for eligibility for being a general apply when going to pick one?

or do you not know because before it was just "if 16 and male, you can have him"

you could

hang on wait let me rephrase that

the actual mechanics when it comes to political marriages is absolute shit

very shit

so, if for example, you marry one of you're female generals that is on the field to another faction

they still stay as your general

guys can you take it to <#464233883303673868>

i guess?

@Atkins its relevant to discussing the controversy mentioned earlier, with total war getting reviewed bombed with a recent update that allowed female generals

so if the inverse were to happen

dude you're just talking about the game

Posh has claimed the controversy is overblown, I'm trying to figure out if it is, but i don't know the game mechanics

the mechanics

never played the game

which is relevant to the discussion

based off the things i've see so far, i think the criticisms are a little more valid than some people think, but that it was an unintended side-affect.

you still wouldn't be able to recruit a female general if you married her from a faction that allows female generals, if the faction you are playing as doesn't allow female generals

i'm not sure about the inverse

i will have to do some more in depth research on that part

so is it not possible that, if you try and marry off all your children (idk but this generally seems to be a good idea in these types of games set around this time period), that you could have a near 50/50 split of male/female options to pull from when picking a general, no?

yes

i never said the critiscism was unwarrented

i'm just against the guys putting all the fake info out

like *"oh hey, you can recruit female generals for rome"*

or *"wow i only get female generals for my general selection screen on the start of the game"* <- unless RNJesus pulled all the fucking stops, this should hardly happen

its bound to happen with enough people playing or enough retries

but the video you linked omits the fact wives can now be generals (assuming females are allowed to be generals). Then goes to claim that the spawn rates are somewhat believable for that time period. However, the people playing the game most like see, suddenly, going from like no female options to upwards of a near 50/50 split. That doesn't seem to like a believable spawn rate for that time period, but i don't think it was intentional either.

So i don't think the controversy is that overblown. but that doesn't mean you don't have idiots. You always have idiots.

like some guy probably saw he had a general that said it was roman despite him playing as the other faction

so he goes "oh look, Rome can now have female generals"

perhaps not realizing (or intentionally omitting) that its the side he is playing as that allows female generals

thats a big hazard if he is jumping back into a game he had already started, and just saw he could pick a roman female to be a general even if its because he is playing as barbarians or whatever

ye

facts that people can easily correct....until the community manager calls everyone a bigot then people stop caring

yup

i'm actually interested in the timing. i'm willing to bet the review bombing was slight and only significant because the game is so old now, but once the CM called people idiots im sure the bombing went into overtime

probably

i'm checking the steam reviews again

i saw a positive review that mentioned the company went the lazy route with its "diversity" push

meaning they didn't offer like a free DLC with a focus known female leaders or such

ye

though most of the recent positive reviews are mostly related to a big overhaul mod a lot of people play

>when you make a game yet people only give positive comments because of a mod it has

https://youtu.be/pbNLt8UKWQA

Project Veritas latest release

i'm beginning to wonder if federal employees, ones which are not elected officials, should be barred from being a member of any political part of organization, and any member caught claiming to be part of a political party/organization should be fired immediately

would violate constitution

just need to make it easier to fire federal employees and bar them from unionizing.

though barring federal employee unions would probably also violate the constitution.

simply making it much easier to fire them would go a long way, as would distributing federal bureaucracy geographically. having everything concentrated in DC, which votes 91% democrat, is not a good way to have a non-partisan bureaucracy.

i don't think barring them from unions violates the constitution seeing as they used to not be allowed

the reason they are hard to fire is because of the unions

https://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-rome-2-is-getting-review-bombed-on-steam-because-of-women-generals/

The way their CM should have handled it.

they did handle it

@GingaBomber my fave fem warrior is Thyra, the viking queen, lead an army against, the german tribes, build “Danevirke”. The danish counterpart to Hadrian’s wall

Their community manager couldn't handle it better, they EA themselves.

They shouldve just explain the rng for female generals was super low to begin with. And thr person who had 5 female generals must've been a shit player for getting all his male generals killed and having only females left

@missdanger its simpler than that. They could have just said "the reason some players might see a sharp increase in available females to be picked for generals is that spouses are now eligible for factions which already have female generals, not just family descendants"

Been reading a good thread about this

```"can you imagine how sad and pathetic you'd be to care about this," says person of twitter and professional gender clown, who has never once contemplated buying a game called total war in their entire life```

```it's stupider then that. female generals were added 6 months ago and there wasn't much complaining because it was pretty uncommon (below 10% for a new general to be female) and only for certain cultures.

the blow-up happened because when they recently added family trees they made every character on the family tree a possible general. this meant that instead of occasionally having a female general, every male character's wife or daughters was also appearing on the general list. due to game mechanics, this meant that the percentage of female generals would steadily climb as you played and climb faster the more you avoided using them.

some guy posted a screenshot of only having female generals available and asked if there was any sort of fix coming and thats when the (new female) CA rep got snippy and thats when everything blew up```

```right now every faction that allows women generals ends up with almost 50% female generals by the late game. if you avoid recruiting female generals you can end up with only female generals to recruit as widows, wives, and daughters pile up and dominate the list

the community was treating this like a bug until someone asking about when it was going to get fixed and got the Ugh Cringey Gamer treatment from CA```

https://twitter.com/Mr_sandman88/status/1044441991113695233

he made a response https://archive.fo/faEhu

90% of the article is "everyone is alt-right" but somewhere in the middle he claims it was part of a parody for his podcast and links a full clip

“ Trump ends covert CIA program to arm anti-Assad rebels in Syria, a move sought by Moscow” by Greg Jaffe and Adam Entous on The Washington Post

Trump ended Americans program that, at this point, indisputably armed Al Qaeda and ISIS forces in Syria. WP attempted to frame this common sense action as pro Russian, when it was really anti terrorism.

http://archive.today/WZuTF

It really owns how people are sucking alphabet agency cock who were up in arms when Snowden revealed the Five Eyes network.

@angeryer wheres twitter banning him?

because they are slandering the right too

the difference is that in the right they are getting banned

and, like half of them on the ''right'' are not really on the right

Jack Dorsey has successfully replaced all of the red blood cells in his veins with soy

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/msn/hitler-and-lenin-face-off-in-weird-mayoral-election/ar-AAAtNR0

https://youtu.be/KNwWwFOxsqo

The left > fuck the CIA, they failed to stop 9/11 and got us into Iraq with lies!

Also the left> well if the CIA thinks Trump is a Russian spy and that we should support Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria I’m sure it’s for the best

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

did you guys see this, I lol'd

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36312/beto-orourke-condemns-protesters-who-accosted-ted-emily-zanotti?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=051717-news&utm_campaign=dwtwitter

lol

Beta O'Rourke

You can never win with the left.

Step out of line once and you're over.

Sad

He should have called Ted a rapist. That seems to excite Democrats

Always be mocking Ted

Beta is going to lose for sure now

Don't accost Cruz: boos from the left
We want to take your guns: boos from the sane

If you're going to be an insane leftie you have to go all the way

I support Ted Cruz in government. As long as he’s busy in Washington, he isn’t butchering teens as the Zodiac Killer.

Like father like son

When I married Ted, we got back from our honeymoon, and he went off to the store and came home by himself. And I was completely shocked to see that he arrived back at our apartment with literally 100 cans of Campbell’s Chunky soup. I never bought 100 of anything.

This was shocking to me, so we had a tough conversation about it. I said, “You don’t buy 100 of anything, much less canned soup. We can’t do this. I’ll be making things.” He said, “No, I know you. you won’t be making things.”

So the next morning, it was a weekend morning, I loaded up our car before he woke up and returned every single can. And when I got home, I called my mother just to make sure I’d done the right thing as a newlywed. And she emphatically disagreed with me. And so when Ted opened the pantry, I had to quickly tell him that I would go back and buy those cans again.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/25/taiwan-can-win-a-war-with-china/

So if twitter is gonna ban dehumanizing speech, does it mean they will clean up the trump feed or ban memes?
https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/topics/company/2018/Creating-new-policies-together.html

What if Trump calls MS-13 animals again?

what if he calls monkeys monkeys?

i mean, apparently context or what you are talking about doesn't matter

if you say monkey you can only be talking about black people according to the left

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/white-nationalist-afghanistan-kekistan-patch_us_5baa88a2e4b0f101d3837d98?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

why is the military kicking out a "white nationalist"? aren't they full of nazis? <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

Truly, the kekistanis will be no more if they continued to be oppressed like. This is so sad, Alexa play despacito

can we get 50,000 likes

T Series conspiracy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQP7kiw5Fk

T Series 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soh-3jiHq4s

just discovered this guy, he does some really good analyses of symbolism in movies and such

this one really hits the nail on the head

this one is mostly about how our culture is trying to replace the masculine with the feminine

obviously we already know that but he points out a bunch of stuff that i never noticed before

I could probably stand to learn about symbolism, as an autodidact I miss stuff like that they'd cover in the humanities

this guy is a serious symbologist, def check him out, he has a ton of vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKrpEuyEHqc

@Timcast this is very interesting research. Might cause revolution in the social sciences. https://t.co/HYRFHjrlvx?amp=1

i got @Abel theres nothing of science in social sciences

Right now, yeah

But according to this book, there's is little to no effect on a person by nurture

Plomin in the book says that everything from Intelligence to obesity is determined by your genetics @Deleted User

well

if you dont eat fat you dont get fat

If the book is right, literally everything in social sciences is out of the window

i get it that dna delineates where are the oulayers

but also nurture is key in a person for reaching those limits

a really smart guy could be a dummy his entire life because he did not was taught how to enjoy learning and studying

anyway gtg gn

The nature versus nature debate had raged for a hundred years and will likely rage a hundred more. This book is being oversold (like most research). It's not as definite as it looks and it's hardly a definitive argument.

There's also an element of how a lot of what people think of as being important traits can be in some way manipulated by circumstance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cosby

So uh, the first sentence of his Wikipedia page is updated.

oof

https://theblast.com/bill-cosby-first-meal-jail-pudding/

I bet

that Cosby actually hates pudding

@Abel I could see some socjus people agreeing with that study because it helps show that homosexuality "isn't some condition that can be treated." On the other, it goes against the Constructivism that they love

Is that just Socjus people though

That's basically 90% of society

Except a fringe of conservatives and lesbian seperatists

```https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/white-nationalist-afghanistan-kekistan-patch_us_5baa88a2e4b0f101d3837d98?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004````
If you get thrown out of Afghanistan with a KEK flag, wouldn't you want a KEK Flag???

Morocco's government says the country's navy opened fire on a boat suspected of carrying migrants

Dang

Morocco done with that crap

Great!

we should all do that!

Do anything from illegal, violent Migrants to come to Europe and bring their shithole country to Europe

I dont think they should indescriminately fire upon migrant boats. But if the port gives them warnings not to dock and the boats ignore the warnings, I see nothing wrong with the country defending itself from a possible threat.

They should!

Not at the Boats directly but in the direction of the boat to force them to go back

Shoot to scare, not to kill

I did border patrol in the Navy and we would shoot near boats trying to cross.

Was sort of effective but since they knew we wouldn’t shoot to kill they generally didn’t care much.

Yeah, that's why you need to have a rule like 3 shot as a warning, fouth hits

PR backlash is probably what prevents us from doing that. You’d never hear the end of it.

yeah, the Israel style border control has not gone over well in recent times

If the Jews control the media then why doesn’t the media like it when Israel defends its borders? <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

its all part of the zionist plan

clearly

you know, nazi's attribute so much to the jewish plans, that it almost makes them sound like god.

@CreativeRealms Cause Jews Hate Themselves?

Why would Jews hate themselves?

Then again I also don’t understand why white leftists hate themselves.

*puts on tinfoil hat*

clearly the miscalculated with Hitler, the underestimated him and he was able to unite the people, foiling the jews plan to destabilize the country and take over.

Now they are using their failure to their advantage, using the holocaust to pain themselves as the victims to appear less powerful. But both sides of the culture war have their jew haters who are aware of the jews power. So they fuel the PC culture war to create at least 4 districts sides which are at odds with the other 3 for one reason or another. The anti-zionist media is to grow the anti-semetic side of the marxist faction so that it will be more equally split. Once things really hit a head, they will retreat to Israel and left all the factions fight it out across the world, letting all the powerful nations fall allowing them to more easily steal or destroy all advanced tech so that once everywhere is reduced to the same as Africa, their successful testbed of this plan, they will take over the world to install their zionist one world government.

these are the people who manged to kill the son of god, remember.

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iur/?f=1&image_host=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Foriginal%2F000%2F022%2F524%2Ftumblr_o16n2kBlpX1ta3qyvo1_1280.jpg&u=https://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/524/tumblr_o16n2kBlpX1ta3qyvo1_1280.jpg

*takes off tinfoil hat*

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1044964797903712256

Binders full of women. God damn.

Ewww wtf is that shit ^

You haven't gone deep enough @Grenade123
Hitler was clearly a Jewish plant who faked the Holocaust so that Zionists would have an excuse and accumulate enough white guilt to justify the creation of Israel
#doubleredpill #altrightbtfo #(((Hitler))) #totallyreal

You guys are reaching levels of woke never before thought to be attainable

my bad, i'm new to the cause

I accuse Michael Avenatti of sexual assault. Therefore, he's invalid

Actually the Jews told Hitler to kill the Jews so that they could take over palestine to kill the palestinians to get them to kill jews and get the countries around them to kill jews so that they could get the us to start wars to get them to stop killing the jews but it didnt work so they started 9/11 then the us started killing the arabs trying to kill the jews and then the wars started turning europe muslim so the us would start attacking europe then give it to israel and then when israel took over half the world they would subvert the us with mexicans and then go to war with the americas and take over the world.

@JDM_WAAAT Pinned message candidate.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/krishrach/fantastic-beasts-nagini-chloe-kim

Typically SJWs, calling for an Asian woman to lose her job