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2018-05-26 00:40:42 UTC

I'd donate if he did that

2018-05-26 00:40:56 UTC

he would get it very quickly if he wanted to though

2018-05-26 00:40:57 UTC

Twitch sucks anyway, and they're honestly even more hardline on politics than youtube in my experience

2018-05-26 00:41:05 UTC

its because amazon

2018-05-26 00:41:10 UTC

yeah I know

2018-05-26 00:41:10 UTC

and bezos

2018-05-26 00:41:18 UTC

fucking bezos man

2018-05-26 01:08:58 UTC

do these idiots not know what an NDA is?

2018-05-26 01:15:06 UTC

jesus christ the cringe

2018-05-26 01:42:13 UTC

They're convinced they're the smartest people in the room. Convinced to the same degree they're convinced the sky is blue and water is wet.

2018-05-26 01:45:34 UTC

the worst kind of shitposters, the self righteous kind

2018-05-26 02:21:08 UTC

Their ideas are too bland to be realized as value, hence why they wouldn't understand why he wouldn't want all of his R&D to get out

2018-05-26 02:43:05 UTC

Did @Timcast say the reason why his partner manager dropped him, more of that Fullscreen dropping people due to "risk" to themselves or different reason, I noticed no music in the video so must have happened between recording and editing

2018-05-26 02:43:12 UTC

i mean some people have a point about not doing a press tour to show people your family recipe. i agree that a NDA does cover basicly "if you tell people this im legally alowed to fuck you" but at the same time its kinda like wtf is the point?

2018-05-26 02:44:19 UTC

what really is the point of a press tour with NDA?

2018-05-26 02:45:18 UTC

publicity without giving away trade secrets... its like Disney hyping movies without giving away the ending... fucking trailers

2018-05-26 02:45:43 UTC

what if you...did a press tour without showing them secrets?

2018-05-26 02:45:53 UTC

to show off how good all your things are.... but limit what they can actually say to what you're willing to publicly show

2018-05-26 02:46:26 UTC

It could actually be an embargo, so they could reveal it and talk about it later

2018-05-26 02:46:37 UTC

it gets people thinking oh there's really great things on the horizon, they cant actually say what it is but it influences their writing to hype the stuff they are allowed to talk to more then they would have otherwise

2018-05-26 02:46:53 UTC

its like opening up your chocolite factory to the public after 20 years and getting angry when you notice the film crew

2018-05-26 02:47:42 UTC

it just seems dumb

2018-05-26 02:48:07 UTC

yeah I agree, it seems to backfire more than it benefits them

2018-05-26 02:49:04 UTC

i see it as an example of a the complacent relationship with media the world has built up over the last 100 years

2018-05-26 02:49:26 UTC

Smarter Everyday did a video on a Hapatic glove about a month ago... i bet that was based on a NDA and they reviewed the film and asked him to blur stuff before release

2018-05-26 02:50:24 UTC

maybe the idea is to get people writing about shit before you ever release it so that its in the public sphere before its on the market

2018-05-26 02:51:31 UTC

yeah for sure its part of their marketing, but they want to build hype 1 or 2 years from release but don't want a competitor (perhaps in a different country) taking that knowledge and releasing something just before them

2018-05-26 02:52:02 UTC

which i get, but its actually not nessicary, the reason its probably happening like this is because in a competitive move for marketing a long ass time ago someone did it, it was successful, and to stay competitive with eachother everyone adopted it, but in reality before when no one was doing it, it was on the journalists initiaitve to talk about these things and the realtionship has shifted to one of expectation rather than anticipation

2018-05-26 02:52:46 UTC

and those who expect something will expect more

2018-05-26 02:53:06 UTC

yeah plenty of kickstarters have promised heaps and delivered sometimes nothing

2018-05-26 02:53:28 UTC

this is more of a journalism issue than an advertisment issue

2018-05-26 02:53:38 UTC

specificly as im talking about it

2018-05-26 02:54:04 UTC
2018-05-26 02:55:11 UTC

vice really is trying to dig themselves into a hole they can never escape

2018-05-26 02:55:29 UTC

yeah that's pretty common and what i've come to expect from vice

2018-05-26 02:56:49 UTC

remember that "retreat" island video vice did.... hypocritical much

2018-05-26 02:57:27 UTC

this is just actual slander

2018-05-26 02:58:20 UTC

Can we copystrike vice?

2018-05-26 02:59:14 UTC

well i know what tomarrows pewdiepie video will be about

2018-05-26 02:59:49 UTC

i wonder if someday tim might work for pew news

2018-05-26 02:59:57 UTC

that could work out

2018-05-26 03:00:20 UTC

he might ignore it since he's already said he doesn't want to deal with that situation anymore, him responding to vice any more than he has will just get other media outlets defending the indefensible

2018-05-26 03:01:08 UTC

idk, i think this is so bad suing them might actually be viable

2018-05-26 03:02:06 UTC

chances are they're already re-writing it and will silently update the article and say nothing... standard trad media

2018-05-26 03:03:32 UTC

somebody needs to finish a suit so we can have a order that all retractions have to be publicly announced

2018-05-26 03:04:03 UTC

im not sure that will actually protect them. theoreticly it can because once it gets to the matter of redactions its a gray area of the law that only has case points to stand on, a judge could easly weigh that redaction doesent actually reverse the damage that slander does in some contexts

2018-05-26 03:05:02 UTC

i don't even bother reading these things, not worth the annoyance.... there already is stuff like newsdiffs that people use because they've lost all trust

2018-05-26 03:05:46 UTC

law is the law though

2018-05-26 03:07:44 UTC

yeah but the gawker thing didn't make the ones leftover more cautious

2018-05-26 03:07:53 UTC

ive heard rumors about the posibility of someone trying to sue a youtuber for slander

2018-05-26 03:08:07 UTC

or defamation

2018-05-26 03:09:52 UTC

if anything actually comes of it ill probably add it here.

2018-05-26 04:24:35 UTC

Unrelated: I don't blame Trump for backing down on summit

2018-05-26 04:28:38 UTC

yeah i kinda changed my mind when i heard more about it

2018-05-26 04:32:33 UTC

Like, it's really difficult to just point fingers. International politics has a lot of nuance

2018-05-26 07:25:34 UTC

Why exactly did happen? The letter stated the behaviour of the foregn official of north korea, but I can't find anymore news about it

2018-05-26 08:47:18 UTC

Short summary from the news i know about that:
- NK and SK were to have a summit, NK and US were to have a summit
- SK and US did some joint military training, NK was put off by that and insulted
- NK cancelled summit with SK, NK said they were considering cancelling with US
- US cancels summit beforehand with letter, but is still open to renegotiating a new summit

2018-05-26 08:49:02 UTC

end result, US shows NK and world they are in this out of kindness, and don't really care much for NK's aggression, but are still willing to continue to play nice. So its up to NK now to either suffer, or grovel back. US can't fall into a doormat position anymore in negotiations with NK

2018-05-26 08:49:43 UTC

You missed that 12h after Trumps letter NK said they still want the meeting.

2018-05-26 08:50:06 UTC

indeed i did miss that, i didn't know newer news already happened

2018-05-26 08:50:10 UTC

good to hear

2018-05-26 08:54:06 UTC

yea, I dont know why it took so long to do that, NK is nothing to fear

2018-05-26 08:55:59 UTC

maybe happened sooner but they announced it later

2018-05-26 08:56:25 UTC

I mean as in the west has been fearing NK for so long

2018-05-26 08:56:56 UTC

and now when NK has to back down they do

2018-05-26 08:58:23 UTC

the US just had to poke them a bit, it could have been done years ago

2018-05-26 09:05:50 UTC

welcome to the art of not being a cuck-statesmen,

Most current western leaders are these ivory towered idiots who go to other leaders, shake hands, drink wine and eat caviar, and basically discuss matters with the goal of doing whats best for the "OTHER" country.

Any leader outside Europe and the US spits on such negotiations because they want whats best for themselves, aka, negotiating like a business
Trump does like that to, so he slaps NK around if it misbehaves, instead of idle threats and practically begging them to behave

2018-05-26 09:08:21 UTC

and i speak of experience,
My countries (Netherlands) Premier, in 2015 went to Turkey in name of the European Union, to negotiate that turkey would block the wave of immigrants from Syria etc,

Him and Erdogan ended up settling that the EU would pay Turkey 3 Billion euros so they'd stop the migrants from crossing into Greece,
Erdogan got the money and did absolutely nothing,

Then the same premier went back in 2016 to re-negotiate, and settled for ANOTHER 3 billion euros, and THEN Erdogan finally did something

2018-05-26 09:08:46 UTC

lolol

2018-05-26 09:09:24 UTC

and later on he said he was considering to re-open the borders if the EU didn't allow for easier VISA processes with Turkish people

2018-05-26 09:09:54 UTC

and this dutch tool actually got re-elected!

2018-05-26 09:10:39 UTC

Im leaving Europe as soon as I can

2018-05-26 09:11:23 UTC

Im saving money to move to Merica

2018-05-26 09:12:38 UTC

hopefully the west of europe will flip right-wing like the east did, and we can turn about this crisis

2018-05-26 09:13:00 UTC

Dont bank on it

2018-05-26 09:13:05 UTC

I have dual citizenship so if one place gets fucked I can move.

2018-05-26 09:29:45 UTC

I think the riskiest part of the NK situation is if it does get to war, it'll be a slaughter and a bunch of soft countries that would be stuffed if the US wasn't protecting them will go oh shame on the US.... my own country (Australia) being one of those soft places who will go oh you should have just given in and paid them to stop being batshit insane

2018-05-26 09:33:25 UTC

sadly it's just delaying the inevitable

2018-05-26 10:11:07 UTC

yeah its essentially what the world has done for 20 years, in the 90's they were claiming to be close to having nukes

2018-05-26 10:15:21 UTC

what u mean slaughter

2018-05-26 10:16:06 UTC

Oh nvm

2018-05-26 10:16:11 UTC

I forgot that China protects them

2018-05-26 10:16:28 UTC

because NK by themselves cant kill a bird

2018-05-26 10:16:49 UTC

and most of their ppl would be happy to become a democracy

2018-05-26 11:11:13 UTC

@Ivanfr China has said they will only protect NK if they don't fire first, however.

2018-05-26 11:11:21 UTC

So even China is sick of their shit

2018-05-26 17:17:43 UTC

Hello everyone.

2018-05-26 19:06:02 UTC

far right... as in "not communist" or real far right?

2018-05-26 19:12:56 UTC

Not a communist.

2018-05-26 20:24:19 UTC

I wonder if Tim is going to get in trouble for talking about Tommy Robinson. Not that Tim is doing anything wrong, against YT guidelines, or against any laws, but simply because YT seems to be looking for any excuse to target him.

2018-05-26 20:24:40 UTC

I think it's highly unlikely.

2018-05-26 20:25:07 UTC

ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

2018-05-26 20:25:17 UTC

Yeah, it's also highly unlikely that Tim has said anything advocating violence yet he's already in crap for that.

2018-05-26 20:25:19 UTC

Ive got a second channel

2018-05-26 20:25:24 UTC

ill just start over

2018-05-26 20:25:26 UTC

They'll kill that one too.

2018-05-26 20:25:30 UTC

so long as I have patrons Im not down and out

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