Message from @ThePoshBarbarian

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2018-09-25 14:16:42 UTC  

i'm just against the guys putting all the fake info out

2018-09-25 14:16:59 UTC  

like *"oh hey, you can recruit female generals for rome"*

2018-09-25 14:18:06 UTC  

or *"wow i only get female generals for my general selection screen on the start of the game"* <- unless RNJesus pulled all the fucking stops, this should hardly happen

2018-09-25 14:18:59 UTC  

its bound to happen with enough people playing or enough retries

2018-09-25 14:20:57 UTC  

but the video you linked omits the fact wives can now be generals (assuming females are allowed to be generals). Then goes to claim that the spawn rates are somewhat believable for that time period. However, the people playing the game most like see, suddenly, going from like no female options to upwards of a near 50/50 split. That doesn't seem to like a believable spawn rate for that time period, but i don't think it was intentional either.

2018-09-25 14:21:36 UTC  

So i don't think the controversy is that overblown. but that doesn't mean you don't have idiots. You always have idiots.

2018-09-25 14:21:56 UTC  

like some guy probably saw he had a general that said it was roman despite him playing as the other faction

2018-09-25 14:22:10 UTC  

so he goes "oh look, Rome can now have female generals"

2018-09-25 14:22:37 UTC  

perhaps not realizing (or intentionally omitting) that its the side he is playing as that allows female generals

2018-09-25 14:24:04 UTC  

thats a big hazard if he is jumping back into a game he had already started, and just saw he could pick a roman female to be a general even if its because he is playing as barbarians or whatever

2018-09-25 14:24:22 UTC  

ye

2018-09-25 14:24:37 UTC  

facts that people can easily correct....until the community manager calls everyone a bigot then people stop caring

2018-09-25 14:25:32 UTC  

yup

2018-09-25 14:25:34 UTC  

i'm actually interested in the timing. i'm willing to bet the review bombing was slight and only significant because the game is so old now, but once the CM called people idiots im sure the bombing went into overtime

2018-09-25 14:28:51 UTC  

probably

2018-09-25 14:29:00 UTC  

i'm checking the steam reviews again

2018-09-25 14:29:45 UTC  

i saw a positive review that mentioned the company went the lazy route with its "diversity" push

2018-09-25 14:30:19 UTC  

meaning they didn't offer like a free DLC with a focus known female leaders or such

2018-09-25 14:32:11 UTC  

ye

2018-09-25 14:32:43 UTC  

though most of the recent positive reviews are mostly related to a big overhaul mod a lot of people play

2018-09-25 14:33:07 UTC  

>when you make a game yet people only give positive comments because of a mod it has

2018-09-25 14:50:09 UTC  

Project Veritas latest release

2018-09-25 15:02:34 UTC  

i'm beginning to wonder if federal employees, ones which are not elected officials, should be barred from being a member of any political part of organization, and any member caught claiming to be part of a political party/organization should be fired immediately

2018-09-25 15:10:17 UTC  

would violate constitution

2018-09-25 15:10:44 UTC  

just need to make it easier to fire federal employees and bar them from unionizing.

2018-09-25 15:11:40 UTC  

though barring federal employee unions would probably also violate the constitution.

2018-09-25 15:12:30 UTC  

simply making it much easier to fire them would go a long way, as would distributing federal bureaucracy geographically. having everything concentrated in DC, which votes 91% democrat, is not a good way to have a non-partisan bureaucracy.

2018-09-25 15:20:54 UTC  

i don't think barring them from unions violates the constitution seeing as they used to not be allowed

2018-09-25 15:21:24 UTC  

the reason they are hard to fire is because of the unions

2018-09-25 17:35:02 UTC  

The way their CM should have handled it.

2018-09-25 17:35:54 UTC  

they did handle it

2018-09-25 17:45:32 UTC  

@GingaBomber my fave fem warrior is Thyra, the viking queen, lead an army against, the german tribes, build “Danevirke”. The danish counterpart to Hadrian’s wall

2018-09-25 19:03:09 UTC  

Their community manager couldn't handle it better, they EA themselves.

2018-09-25 19:05:27 UTC  

They shouldve just explain the rng for female generals was super low to begin with. And thr person who had 5 female generals must've been a shit player for getting all his male generals killed and having only females left

2018-09-25 19:13:22 UTC  

@missdanger its simpler than that. They could have just said "the reason some players might see a sharp increase in available females to be picked for generals is that spouses are now eligible for factions which already have female generals, not just family descendants"

2018-09-25 19:13:42 UTC  

Been reading a good thread about this

2018-09-25 19:13:46 UTC  

```"can you imagine how sad and pathetic you'd be to care about this," says person of twitter and professional gender clown, who has never once contemplated buying a game called total war in their entire life```

2018-09-25 19:15:39 UTC  

```it's stupider then that. female generals were added 6 months ago and there wasn't much complaining because it was pretty uncommon (below 10% for a new general to be female) and only for certain cultures.

the blow-up happened because when they recently added family trees they made every character on the family tree a possible general. this meant that instead of occasionally having a female general, every male character's wife or daughters was also appearing on the general list. due to game mechanics, this meant that the percentage of female generals would steadily climb as you played and climb faster the more you avoided using them.

some guy posted a screenshot of only having female generals available and asked if there was any sort of fix coming and thats when the (new female) CA rep got snippy and thats when everything blew up```

2018-09-25 19:16:51 UTC  

```right now every faction that allows women generals ends up with almost 50% female generals by the late game. if you avoid recruiting female generals you can end up with only female generals to recruit as widows, wives, and daughters pile up and dominate the list

the community was treating this like a bug until someone asking about when it was going to get fixed and got the Ugh Cringey Gamer treatment from CA```