well I get added, and the firstthing I see is a gay patrick meme

what the fuck is this fagot chat

soclaism is heritcle

socalism is the process by nations transfer from captlism to captlism

!agree

I think John Cleese pissed off alot of libdems by voting leave

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637610/John-Cleese-backs-Brexit-suggests-way-reforming-EU-KILL-European-Commission-President-Jean-Claude-Juncker.html

Great man John Cleese absulutly liberalism, and a funny comeadain

the problem with third parties is becuase they lose (in a FPTP system) no one votes for them which sticks them in a cycle

the times third parties have sucseeded is when they have a dedicated grass roots

ukip is as about as untained as you can get wile not being part of the establishment

for the most part I think UKIP has avoided being labled fascist

moderate parties are against free speech

I say this as a massive poltics nerd, UKIP is in the perfect possition to be hollowed out and made into what ever you wanted it to be

you just need grass roots effort

also you don't neceserly need to win to infleunce you just need to be winning enougth to threaten the major parties to force them to change (to re gain your voters)

also the UK might be about to get rid of the house of Lords, which would be replced with a more represetive elected body, this would allow for more populist frinch parties greater ability to win

a labour MP Frank Fields (one of the few non leftists ones) has submited a bill to give us a senate.

normaly it wouldn't sucseed but with the frustration of brexit and labour being far left, I could see it getting the votes.

Jobbik is weird though

it's not like a normal populist party

it's allways had wierd race views like pro turk pro islam

it's so anti liberal it's pro islam

yes it is my point was rather the senate is not likly to be FPTP it is likly to be STV /AV or MMR

Next general election in UK is, 2022 at the latest most political parties require you be a member for at least 6 months to stand the next election for local stuff is not far away

Plus the gov could collapse causing an early election

I don't see may calling another early election

But the gov could collapse any day now

(I'm a massive political nerd with connections to both labour and tory campaigns branches nether are ready for an election )

I have a big list of why Merkel is responsible for everything wrong with Europe from diesel cars to migration I'll be so glad if she goes and the cdu goes back to normal

Like it's a 50 item list

Cause she is in charge of the Conservative party

Although afd making gains

The two socalist parties are feminist and the far left is maoism lennism

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186811972346576896/458380825960906754/Df_9C18X4AE7tJF.png

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ah

well

that would be 1/3 of total members

so entritysm is a sucsess

UKIP has let people in who have used the word Nigger befour

I don't see this being a problem realy

unlike tommy robbinson who would be rejected because of his stastus within the EDL

>oh I can
your probably polliticaly irelvent so no.

the only defence against racism is to accept your racist, at which point your a dead wieght.

yellow and blue is a europhile

> was

haha

let me gues your dad was a navy seal

ofc she does she got kicked out

no one wants a leftwing lesbain with race hate as a leader

there are more than 4 parties in the UK

CON LAB LIBDEM, SNP , PC, Green, DUP and SF all have won seats at the election

yeah

I know

they arn't nats

they just hate the english

what we need to push is election by STV (we currently use FPTP)

although Labour is currently trying to replace the Lords with a senate that is elected by a proportional system

so if that happens UKIP will get some elected seats

well I say labour Opision parties can't submit bills, it's a private members bill by Frank Feilds (who is one of the few good lab MPs VERY RARE)

ukip has 3 lords I think

https://gyazo.com/37bbdf6e702ab55ba4d5cb183ebb7a4b

yeah I read there 2010 manfesto

david cameron won in 2015 by 1) promising a brexit refernduim 2) saying the alternative was labour SNP coaltion 3) being green and hip.

the house of Lords was a respectible instituion that used to protect peoples rights, then Tony Blair reformed it. now instead of unpoltical aristocrats looking out for there children future, it's poltical cronyees who lost there MP seats.

it's basicly the EU

tbf to Boggie the man has lost like 1/3 of his wieght

like thats an acmplishment even if he is still superfat

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA] they left it When Bush was in charge

this will have like zero effect

@Reaps as much as I dislike the turks putting them Russian aliegned is dangerouse simply becuase of the Geography problem. Currently Turkey is a nice bottle neck on any Russain naval activity.

they do if Turkey is on there side

currently Russia has no good ports other than Vladadofstock (which is shut in by Japan)

if Turkey gives them free hand at it Crimia is the largest naval base on the mediterain.

no

it's the only pacific port they have thats not

and one of only 3 that doesn't freeze over they have

the other two being Crimia, and Azoov (both stuck behind the dardinal straits)

that freezes

the baltic freezes yes

same problem as st petersberg

also there is the Danish straits

it doesn't freeze as bad

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kcSk-6jkQAo/Ud8BFiIBpTI/AAAAAAAAAJw/ppQ1Ajh_pgE/s1600/c00_russian_ports_map.png

it doesn't relaibly freeze but it can

there is still the danish blocking them in

and the so called "north sea wall" from English Channel to Greenland

which would be a signifiant impediment for there naval power in the event of a war

it's also why it's not a true world power

excluding the neuclear option, it's severly hampered in millitary deployment so can't realy have long peroids of overseas infleunce

there are significant strategic reasons to support global warming

Canada would be the bigest benfiter of melting ice caps in the North

great I get pinned when I have a typo

the US is allready planing to build a larger naval base in Alaska

the global warming effect of carbon is logerithmic so it's entirly possible the vast majority of warming has allready happened as it has been proven in a lab to have diminshing returns.

but i'm not a climate scientist so don't cite me on that.

I live in a nation that is technologicly advanced enougth to cope with global warming, and could benfit agricutraly from warming temtitures. Fuck it I want cheap fuel.

@Deleted User doesn't that expire on like 2025 or somthing