If our job is to 1. grow, 2. develop our members, 3. support eachother and network, and 4. awaken as many people to white-well-being as possible. I think I.E. does that well as is. We just need more people and money, and well do those things more and better.

Yeah, compromise should be a strategy, not a philosophy.

yep

Just hit the nail that I was beating around all night

Ha ha! Glad to be of service.

I like the rigorous debate. I haven't seen too much of that in here.

Rules to IE debate:
1. Argue in good faith
2. Don't get personal
3. Don't get butthurt

@Deleted User I just worry about fracturing and implosion. Every day. That's a personal fear of mine, not reflective of I.E.'s dynamic.

We need people at all levels of explicitness. What I take issue with, is I see people sometimes arguing that promoting civic nationalism is somehow *more* effective than promoting identitarianism. No, it really isn't, because it's ultimately useless, and no one is promoting the next step, people will never reach the next step. If we play this silly game of "oh, we'll just promote identitarianism *after* we've turned the whole country civnat", then by the time you're ready to promote identitarianism, their won't be any identitarians left to promote it.

This is why civic nationalism can be destructive if taken too far. It just makes people complacement. It tells them they have a solution and they can just end right there.

@Jacob Pretty much all the friends I still associate with know I'm in IE, never had an issue.

So i agree, pretending to be civnat is lame.

Is this path more difficult? Ya, I guess. But this is the only path to victory. Becoming civnats isn't victory, it's moving the goalpost.

busy day tomorrow, boys. Good chat. Don't be retards in my absence.

@Jacob moving that post toward victory.

Good chat, disagree on strategy, but good chat none the less.

Good night

Love ya, brotha.

haha you too

IE and identitarianism as a whole is growing. I'm not too concerned about people like us suddenly deciding that demographic transformation is okay because of "muh based Kanye"

CivNats just slow the bleed, we need the bleed stopped or our descendants become the Indians on reservations. 😕

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TiAEHjM5ZM

muh based Kanye is so easily debunked with 92% of blacks voting for Dems...

and 70%+ of Hispanics

@Asatru Artist - MD Going off of your metaphor, slowing the blood loss is still a good first step until you can get to sewing the wound back shut

Anyways, good debate and goodnight friends

Which is why we should vote for Republicans, maybe help their campaigns either, but still have people pushing for the next step

One last point, perhaps missed in chat. I'm arguing that America/GOP/Our social order being CivNat is preferable to the way things currently are. It is by no means ideal or a final destination and is up to us entirely to harness that energy.

If IE were to become a CivNat org, I would probably leave tomorrow.

My point felt hazy and worth clarifying. goodnight lads.

Goodnight

☝

Good night. Sleep tight. Stay white, keep up the fight.

I'm thinking about doing my first flyering this weekend.

I'm a bit spooked.

I missed my opportunity

I was thinking about putting up some posters today

@Deleted User Last thing one sees before one dies?

But I have like 5 right now lol

my pack should be coming in soon, though

There's a local state college. But I worry about being recognized. The womens' basketball coach is a family friend (and black).

Gonna do some postering tomorrow

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN You going alone?

@fgtveassassin I dunno. I feel bad I've been in the org over a month and haven't flyered.