Message from hbutzer0511 in Nice Respectable People Group #general
We need people at all levels of explicitness. What I take issue with, is I see people sometimes arguing that promoting civic nationalism is somehow *more* effective than promoting identitarianism. No, it really isn't, because it's ultimately useless, and no one is promoting the next step, people will never reach the next step. If we play this silly game of "oh, we'll just promote identitarianism *after* we've turned the whole country civnat", then by the time you're ready to promote identitarianism, their won't be any identitarians left to promote it.
This is why civic nationalism can be destructive if taken too far. It just makes people complacement. It tells them they have a solution and they can just end right there.
@Jacob Pretty much all the friends I still associate with know I'm in IE, never had an issue.
So i agree, pretending to be civnat is lame.
Is this path more difficult? Ya, I guess. But this is the only path to victory. Becoming civnats isn't victory, it's moving the goalpost.
busy day tomorrow, boys. Good chat. Don't be retards in my absence.
Good chat, disagree on strategy, but good chat none the less.
Love ya, brotha.
haha you too
IE and identitarianism as a whole is growing. I'm not too concerned about people like us suddenly deciding that demographic transformation is okay because of "muh based Kanye"
CivNats just slow the bleed, we need the bleed stopped or our descendants become the Indians on reservations. 😕
muh based Kanye is so easily debunked with 92% of blacks voting for Dems...
and 70%+ of Hispanics
@Asatru Artist - MD Going off of your metaphor, slowing the blood loss is still a good first step until you can get to sewing the wound back shut
Anyways, good debate and goodnight friends
Which is why we should vote for Republicans, maybe help their campaigns either, but still have people pushing for the next step
One last point, perhaps missed in chat. I'm arguing that America/GOP/Our social order being CivNat is preferable to the way things currently are. It is by no means ideal or a final destination and is up to us entirely to harness that energy.
If IE were to become a CivNat org, I would probably leave tomorrow.
My point felt hazy and worth clarifying. goodnight lads.
Good night. Sleep tight. Stay white, keep up the fight.
I'm thinking about doing my first flyering this weekend.
I'm a bit spooked.
I missed my opportunity
I was thinking about putting up some posters today
But I have like 5 right now lol
my pack should be coming in soon, though
There's a local state college. But I worry about being recognized. The womens' basketball coach is a family friend (and black).
Gonna do some postering tomorrow
@fgtveassassin I dunno. I feel bad I've been in the org over a month and haven't flyered.
I've thought that too but I'm too nervous to go out alone, even if like I did it at night or something I just don't feel comfortable doing it, even though I doubt anyone in the area knows what IE is
I might wait until Tuesday or Thursday to flyer a better target, possibly with back-up.
We're not supposed to poster at night IIRC
I though early morning / dawn. Fewest college kids up. lol
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I recommend morning or late afternoon, and wearing a hat. Act and dress like a student, walk like your ambling to class or killing time between classes. Put up your materials calmly and confidently like theyre totally normal and boring. Most people are NPCs with zero situational awareness.
lol I was also nervous when I first joined IE
It's honestly funny to see the new guys talking about putting up posters like it's some kind of secret agent activity
I do live near a Penn State campus though so I feel that'd be some good media attention "Neo-nazis at Penn State"