Message from @Deleted User

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2018-10-13 04:48:23 UTC  

Rules to IE debate:
1. Argue in good faith
2. Don't get personal
3. Don't get butthurt

2018-10-13 04:48:27 UTC  

@Deleted User I just worry about fracturing and implosion. Every day. That's a personal fear of mine, not reflective of I.E.'s dynamic.

2018-10-13 04:48:30 UTC  

We need people at all levels of explicitness. What I take issue with, is I see people sometimes arguing that promoting civic nationalism is somehow *more* effective than promoting identitarianism. No, it really isn't, because it's ultimately useless, and no one is promoting the next step, people will never reach the next step. If we play this silly game of "oh, we'll just promote identitarianism *after* we've turned the whole country civnat", then by the time you're ready to promote identitarianism, their won't be any identitarians left to promote it.

This is why civic nationalism can be destructive if taken too far. It just makes people complacement. It tells them they have a solution and they can just end right there.

2018-10-13 04:48:32 UTC  

@Jacob Pretty much all the friends I still associate with know I'm in IE, never had an issue.

2018-10-13 04:48:47 UTC  

So i agree, pretending to be civnat is lame.

2018-10-13 04:49:58 UTC  

Is this path more difficult? Ya, I guess. But this is the only path to victory. Becoming civnats isn't victory, it's moving the goalpost.

2018-10-13 04:50:00 UTC  

busy day tomorrow, boys. Good chat. Don't be retards in my absence.

2018-10-13 04:50:17 UTC  

@Jacob moving that post toward victory.

2018-10-13 04:50:35 UTC  

Good chat, disagree on strategy, but good chat none the less.

2018-10-13 04:50:41 UTC  

Good night

2018-10-13 04:50:42 UTC  

Love ya, brotha.

2018-10-13 04:50:50 UTC  

haha you too

2018-10-13 04:51:45 UTC  

IE and identitarianism as a whole is growing. I'm not too concerned about people like us suddenly deciding that demographic transformation is okay because of "muh based Kanye"

2018-10-13 04:51:58 UTC  

CivNats just slow the bleed, we need the bleed stopped or our descendants become the Indians on reservations. 😕

2018-10-13 04:52:27 UTC  

muh based Kanye is so easily debunked with 92% of blacks voting for Dems...

2018-10-13 04:52:39 UTC  

and 70%+ of Hispanics

2018-10-13 04:53:06 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD Going off of your metaphor, slowing the blood loss is still a good first step until you can get to sewing the wound back shut

2018-10-13 04:54:33 UTC  

Anyways, good debate and goodnight friends

2018-10-13 04:54:38 UTC  

Which is why we should vote for Republicans, maybe help their campaigns either, but still have people pushing for the next step

2018-10-13 04:54:43 UTC  

One last point, perhaps missed in chat. I'm arguing that America/GOP/Our social order being CivNat is preferable to the way things currently are. It is by no means ideal or a final destination and is up to us entirely to harness that energy.

If IE were to become a CivNat org, I would probably leave tomorrow.

My point felt hazy and worth clarifying. goodnight lads.

2018-10-13 04:55:06 UTC  

Goodnight

2018-10-13 04:57:31 UTC  

2018-10-13 05:00:51 UTC  

Good night. Sleep tight. Stay white, keep up the fight.

2018-10-13 05:02:49 UTC  

I'm thinking about doing my first flyering this weekend.

2018-10-13 05:02:53 UTC  

I'm a bit spooked.

2018-10-13 05:03:40 UTC  

I missed my opportunity

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/500534065041113088/DEBATE_ME_COWARD.jpg

2018-10-13 05:04:29 UTC  

I was thinking about putting up some posters today

2018-10-13 05:04:30 UTC  

@Deleted User Last thing one sees before one dies?

2018-10-13 05:04:36 UTC  

But I have like 5 right now lol

2018-10-13 05:04:43 UTC  

my pack should be coming in soon, though

2018-10-13 05:06:11 UTC  

There's a local state college. But I worry about being recognized. The womens' basketball coach is a family friend (and black).

2018-10-13 05:06:29 UTC  

Gonna do some postering tomorrow

2018-10-13 05:07:34 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN You going alone?

2018-10-13 05:08:20 UTC  

@fgtveassassin I dunno. I feel bad I've been in the org over a month and haven't flyered.

2018-10-13 05:09:10 UTC  

I've thought that too but I'm too nervous to go out alone, even if like I did it at night or something I just don't feel comfortable doing it, even though I doubt anyone in the area knows what IE is

2018-10-13 05:09:12 UTC  

I might wait until Tuesday or Thursday to flyer a better target, possibly with back-up.

2018-10-13 05:09:23 UTC  

We're not supposed to poster at night IIRC

2018-10-13 05:09:38 UTC  

I though early morning / dawn. Fewest college kids up. lol

2018-10-13 05:09:45 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I recommend morning or late afternoon, and wearing a hat. Act and dress like a student, walk like your ambling to class or killing time between classes. Put up your materials calmly and confidently like theyre totally normal and boring. Most people are NPCs with zero situational awareness.

2018-10-13 05:09:52 UTC  

lol I was also nervous when I first joined IE