Message from @Deleted User

Discord ID: 500530802615123998


2018-10-13 04:43:59 UTC  

We need power to exploit opportunity. Growing the organization is obviously what we all should focus on

2018-10-13 04:44:16 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Mate, nobody is fighting. Rigorous debate is the path to growth so long as it doesn't get personal.

2018-10-13 04:44:28 UTC  

I want MORE of this manner of conversation.

2018-10-13 04:44:37 UTC  

I've had much more success being explicit than pretending to be a civnat. People appreciate the honesty. Liberals can see through the whole civnat shtick anyway.

2018-10-13 04:45:04 UTC  

If our job is to 1. grow, 2. develop our members, 3. support eachother and network, and 4. awaken as many people to white-well-being as possible. I think I.E. does that well as is. We just need more people and money, and well do those things more and better.

2018-10-13 04:45:34 UTC  

Yeah, compromise should be a strategy, not a philosophy.

2018-10-13 04:45:50 UTC  

yep

2018-10-13 04:46:05 UTC  

Just hit the nail that I was beating around all night

2018-10-13 04:46:19 UTC  

Ha ha! Glad to be of service.

2018-10-13 04:47:14 UTC  

I like the rigorous debate. I haven't seen too much of that in here.

2018-10-13 04:48:23 UTC  

Rules to IE debate:
1. Argue in good faith
2. Don't get personal
3. Don't get butthurt

2018-10-13 04:48:27 UTC  

@Deleted User I just worry about fracturing and implosion. Every day. That's a personal fear of mine, not reflective of I.E.'s dynamic.

2018-10-13 04:48:30 UTC  

We need people at all levels of explicitness. What I take issue with, is I see people sometimes arguing that promoting civic nationalism is somehow *more* effective than promoting identitarianism. No, it really isn't, because it's ultimately useless, and no one is promoting the next step, people will never reach the next step. If we play this silly game of "oh, we'll just promote identitarianism *after* we've turned the whole country civnat", then by the time you're ready to promote identitarianism, their won't be any identitarians left to promote it.

This is why civic nationalism can be destructive if taken too far. It just makes people complacement. It tells them they have a solution and they can just end right there.

2018-10-13 04:48:32 UTC  

@Jacob Pretty much all the friends I still associate with know I'm in IE, never had an issue.

2018-10-13 04:48:47 UTC  

So i agree, pretending to be civnat is lame.

2018-10-13 04:49:58 UTC  

Is this path more difficult? Ya, I guess. But this is the only path to victory. Becoming civnats isn't victory, it's moving the goalpost.

2018-10-13 04:50:00 UTC  

busy day tomorrow, boys. Good chat. Don't be retards in my absence.

2018-10-13 04:50:17 UTC  

@Jacob moving that post toward victory.

2018-10-13 04:50:35 UTC  

Good chat, disagree on strategy, but good chat none the less.

2018-10-13 04:50:41 UTC  

Good night

2018-10-13 04:50:42 UTC  

Love ya, brotha.

2018-10-13 04:50:50 UTC  

haha you too

2018-10-13 04:51:45 UTC  

IE and identitarianism as a whole is growing. I'm not too concerned about people like us suddenly deciding that demographic transformation is okay because of "muh based Kanye"

2018-10-13 04:51:58 UTC  

CivNats just slow the bleed, we need the bleed stopped or our descendants become the Indians on reservations. 😕

2018-10-13 04:52:27 UTC  

muh based Kanye is so easily debunked with 92% of blacks voting for Dems...

2018-10-13 04:52:39 UTC  

and 70%+ of Hispanics

2018-10-13 04:53:06 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD Going off of your metaphor, slowing the blood loss is still a good first step until you can get to sewing the wound back shut

2018-10-13 04:54:33 UTC  

Anyways, good debate and goodnight friends

2018-10-13 04:54:38 UTC  

Which is why we should vote for Republicans, maybe help their campaigns either, but still have people pushing for the next step

2018-10-13 04:54:43 UTC  

One last point, perhaps missed in chat. I'm arguing that America/GOP/Our social order being CivNat is preferable to the way things currently are. It is by no means ideal or a final destination and is up to us entirely to harness that energy.

If IE were to become a CivNat org, I would probably leave tomorrow.

My point felt hazy and worth clarifying. goodnight lads.

2018-10-13 04:55:06 UTC  

Goodnight

2018-10-13 04:57:31 UTC  

2018-10-13 05:00:51 UTC  

Good night. Sleep tight. Stay white, keep up the fight.

2018-10-13 05:02:49 UTC  

I'm thinking about doing my first flyering this weekend.

2018-10-13 05:02:53 UTC  

I'm a bit spooked.

2018-10-13 05:03:40 UTC  

I missed my opportunity

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/500534065041113088/DEBATE_ME_COWARD.jpg

2018-10-13 05:04:29 UTC  

I was thinking about putting up some posters today

2018-10-13 05:04:30 UTC  

@Deleted User Last thing one sees before one dies?

2018-10-13 05:04:36 UTC  

But I have like 5 right now lol

2018-10-13 05:04:43 UTC  

my pack should be coming in soon, though