"IE downplaying Columbus"

>IE accurately discussing the history of Columbus is downplaying

bro lol

Seems like there's a danger of going too far in defining an in group. What if one day white Pennsylvanians decide they're a separate ethnicity and want their PA Deitsch ethnostate or something? What if Southerners decide they're another ethnicity? Could get ridiculous. Gotta have a happy medium between total globalism and getting too suspicious of outsiders. Any white European is my own blood. If they wanna come here, in reasonable numbers, and commit to our way of life, fine with me.

I really can only imagine what reading this has to feel like to our enemies. It has an extremely "triumphalist" tone, which is pretty cool imo.

lol

@Ald The Spanish colonized areas with tens of millions of amerindians, the English colonized places with only a few hundred thousand amerindians

Leif Eriksson had little impact on the North American continent and no impact on Europe. Columbus was the first time a permanent link was established from the Americas to Europe. Leif Eriksson did not establish any link after he left Newfoundland

@ophiuchusit wasn't easy turning these lands into what they are today. And in a short time.

@ophiuchus Indeed. It would probably feel terrifying to them.

It's really nothing short of amazing @Josh M. -OH

I know, that was part of it, another part was decisions they made such as bringing less women and forming a caste system

Having miscegenation not only accepted but codified

I don't see my Leif posting as anti Columbus. I respect them both equally, even as a Nord

I just laugh when people put forward the Spanish caste system now

Like bro

the less women led to the caste system, or was that more of a casual link?

Look at its fruits

All of these European travelers, discoverers, have a great contribution. All of them should be celebrated because they all played an important role in a much bigger divine plan

@Virgil That's because the Americas were nothing more than a logging colony. The Norse never had an imperial desire in North America.

Australia is the same way. Dump the scum of the British Empire on a barren wasteland in the south Pacific- in 150 years it's a first world country.

they went back there plenty of time just to chop some wood lol

@sigruna14 I don't see any problem having in groups that get progressively more specific. As for what if Pennsylvania secedes, well, if they can function independently and it would make them happy, they can secede, if they aren't big enough to function independently, then they should be grouped in with the next in group up.

@ophiuchus Lol

I mean, I personally have multiple in groups

@ophiuchus Dump the scum of *any* European nation on a barren rock and it will become a 1st world nation given time.

I agree, was just stating that for history's sake.

oh and getting worried about Southerners thinking we're our own ethnicity... hate to disillusion you, but there is a large group of Southerners that do think this. That's part of the basis of modern Southern Nationalism

Southrons fam

I'm Polish, Slavic, and European. The more specific groups don't interfere with the less specific ones. I care about the interests of all Europeans, but I'm also concerned specifically about the interests of European-Americans and Polish people.

This is why I think the answer lies less in where exactly the founding people came from and more they exhibited a particular European spirit.

yup

If they didn't share an ideal they wouldn't be able to become cohesive as they have. An ideal that broke through national and even language barriers.

Nah, not a fan of all the extra nationalism. I would say I'm a "white" nationalist, but that term is loaded with too much baggage from idiots who've done and said stupid things in connection with it. I guess "racial nationalist" is good enough in that case.

@Rabbidsith Regardless of the reasons, he had no impact. So celebrating him as on par with Columbus because he was Nord or he was the first Euro on North America is reaching a bit

@sigruna14 Would you put the interests of European-Americans over the interests of other Europeans?

@Virgil Would you say the same about Neil Armstrong?

@Virgil If we had a lunar colony?

@Jacob Don't think that's the same question as what else is being discussed here. The answer is yes, but it's not a related question. If a European wanted to come here, became a citizen, showed loyalty to our country - fine with me.

>implying we don't have a lunar colony

TY

@ophiuchus lol

The problem with disowning terms like White Nationalist is that to those listening the difference between disowning the plain meaning and disowning the connotations and baggage is not clear. We are nationalists for whites, ie WN. To say you're not a wn sounds to most like you're just cucking, not rebranding