If we showed up at some of the same events and share a single issue in common that's not enough to make us allies, though maybe there was more to it than that I would ask @Reinhard Wolff what he thinks.

I am not saying allies now or even recently. Or even "alliance" in an amicable sense.

more like an involuntary grouping, in many senses put upon all the groups by media

There's legal reasons we want to be incredibly clear and precise in our chats about what our precise relationship is or isn't with other groups.

let me make my stance perfectly clear: I just want to grill for G*d sake

Better to not assert anything than to over assert, because something inaccurate that's said is more of an issue than something inaccurate by omission.

I'm not disagreeing with that.
But it is dishonest and insults everyones' intelligence to insist there was never some overlap in media, some individuals, events, etc.

The future is important.

@Sam Southern - TN Ok, thinly veiled threat by a lawmaker to kill anyone who defies his disrespect of their rights americans.

"But it is dishonest and insults everyones' intelligence to insist there was never some overlap in media, some individuals, events, etc." according to who? What was the nature of this overlap? When and to what extent were these overlaps known to which members in leadership?

😒 <:really:453005408064241674> I dunno, man, maybe the first Director getting into California street fights?

at a gathering of so called "alt-right" groups?

That was found to be self-defense in a court of law, and he is no longer affiliated with the organization.

He was not there as part of an alt-right group anymore then he was part of the other antifa groups there.

He was there as part of Identity Evropa independently of what other groups did or did not do.

Okay, okay. Sure. I'll drop it. No IE people were at Charlottesville either.

Or have ever listened to TRS.

Antifa listens to TRS too

That is the biggest non sequitur

There were IE people at charlottesville, as were many other people. The IE people were there as part of Identity Evropa and not under any other group.

OK, civnat boomers listen to TRS too.

I feel like we are talking past eachother. "alt-Right" wasn't a group. No more than "punk rock" is a band

Bands can move away from punk rock and associate less and less with punk rock.

We're not an authority on whether the alt-right was a group or not. Why get into it? Let's just be who we are. Otherwise we're leaving confusing messages for future lawyers to read should the IE chat logs every get subpoenaed in discovery.

That's why it's important to be very precise and correct and not unnecessarily link us with any other groups or movements that we are not a part of.

I support I.E going its own way and developing its own brand. I'm not even trying to argue. I was just trying to be helpful to pepsi's question. But sure, I will go along to get along: IE covalesced out of the ether in June 2018 with no previous history. Please delete any contrary messaging.

Let’s all lighten up a bit. We used the term “Alt-Right” for a time, it’s undeniable.

I apologize if my points we're combative or in some way litigiously unwise. I appreciate and admire the thorough custodial work done on this channel. I am off to gym to wait in line at squat rack.

Damn I missed the argument

I love a good argument

*The Identitarian Right is Tearing Itself Apart!*

I will say, one of the benefits of having good admins and relatively civil people in this server is that we can afford to have the occaisional disagreement, and not make ourselves look like spergs in the process.

Greatings, fashy goys

@Jacob what is the L? There was a roman group?🤔

LARPers

tbh

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I didn't feel it was personal, hope you felt the same way. Thanks.

@ThisIsChris All good here, friend!

What are you guys cucking each other over now?

Girlfriends sons mainly