Madison Grant was a father of the national parks and was our guy

Does anyone still have those?

IE has such nice slogans. It would be cool if we had shirts with the same slogans as the banners.

I have his book @Wood-Ape - OK/MN

We could use a quote from Muir

@Trashboat But have you been to his parks: Denali and Glacier?

Nope

I have been to Denali but not Glacier

Glacier is where the soul of America lives

@Grayson IE has been doing environmental trash pick up stuff for awhile

The DtR video brings me back to the whitepilled hype of that snowy day!

https://youtu.be/XBaZSiJfI1o

Indeed, they were.

The snow aesthetic was awesome

Jacob made a good point we should sell t-shirts with our slogans, it could be a really good source of revenue

I would totally wear an "America First End Immigration" shirt

Same

Could be neutral so that people outside the org would buy them via a payment processor

i can help with the ecommerce dev

quality on those sites is usually low

printful has american apparel and they're A+

I've done that

i agree on that side

you can make a little money

for IE you want it best possible quality

but you have to advertise pretty aggressively on facebook to break even

fb ads are dead now

Facebook is literally the best value for advertising online

I hate to admit it or use it, but it's a fact.

nobody uses it, it's a dud now

maybe if you advertise to the lowest common NPC type it could still work

@Asatru Artist - MD I tried doing that a long time ago with leftist shirts

i've been running lots of ads for years, it's sharply died off in ROI 2018

Problem is, Facebook requires you to confirm your identity to buy political advertisements

Okay, I disagree. What are you using now? @Gumbo - AZ

I advertised on Reddit and got nothing

bing display ads are the best ROI by far

We wouldn't necessarily have to put the logo on it, we could just use the slogans

really....

I find that very surprising.

I will do some research on it though, thanks.