@SeanVV X

I'm way late to that conversation, but @Goose "What have they conserved?" Is may favourite.

Fascism was trying to fill the void monarchy left, not build on it

Let's just let Ivanka be the next president because muh monarch's child

Monarchy is not fascism and fascism is not attempt to make a secular Monarchy.

@Jacob epic women cant normally inherent

To be fair to the line is succession bit, I kinda see the logic that someone trained from birth to lead would theoretically be very well suited to lead.

Neither is Monachy totalitarian as the rings of hierarchy were, are, clearly defined and limited

@MrDefault okay let's let Baron be president without knowing what kind of person he'll grow up to be

@Sam Southern - TN agreed 100% it just sucks that it doesnt always work out that way

@Sam Southern - TN If the first ruler was the one that was genetically the best of the tribe it would make sense that those genes would be passed down from father to son.

Imagine unironically not supporting a Barron cyber monarchy

this tbh ^

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If genes determined 100% of behavior, monarchy would be great.

In real life, it's a massive dice roll.

How many of you actually turned out politically similar to your parents?

okay I'm out for now. Gotta finish a paper. anyone want to continue this autism later ping me

My jeans are cool.

@Jacob The church did play a huge role in filtering out unsavory monarchs.

I prefer basketball shorts

uhh ya I'd rather not give the Catholic Church any political power but that's probably not a topic for this server

Lol

Yeah

Rome was strongest when the Senate familial clans (the Gens) were pure and intact

A heritidary nobility provides a genepool for good rulers

This was Plato's ideal as well

New rules of primogeniture could be established that factor in genetic pedgree as well as accomplishments in adult life, the Gens Imperator could be renewed every generation by the election of a new rule based on a series of standards to draw from a general aristocratic class

There's a big debate around the role of the Aristocracy and the role it plays in a monarchy. Not a lot of love for the merchant class

Circulation of genes is essential but it should be slow and we'll selected

Selection is key for sure

@Perihelion - CA Incorrect. Plato actually wanted philosopher kings to not get married or have children so that they wouldn't be influenced by any interests besides the good of the Polis. He also believed that the best leaders could come from any class and be picked based on merit

Childless rulers have not worked well in the last 60 years, I feel that a familial bond to the nation is a must, not necesarily a hereditary government office, but a prerequisite to holding office in an established state

The problem is that all the monarchs have a hatred for the ideology that unseated them: nationalism. The Hapsburgs are BIG EU supporters.

Hapsburgs support the EU because they believe they should be the head of the EU.

The prince married a half-black American divorcee because the Queen needed a colored member of the family to parade around multi-racial England.

Monarchy is fine, hereditary monarchy is big gay

Also rip France again

Is religion of peace confirmed yet

I think monarch should be selected through ritualized military tribal combat conducted in the Yukon wilderness

Obviously this is the only way to avoid fops

Monarchy sucks. Absolute power is dangerous, and there's no way for a monarchy to have the people behind it now that nobody believes in divine right

His moral character will be tried by his ability to recruit a team of the best and most competent men to risk their lives in the trial by combat