Message from @Jacob

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2018-12-11 23:02:38 UTC  

Im sympathetic to Monarchists but fail to see how it would work in the US since no king.

2018-12-11 23:02:44 UTC  

Monarchy seems like a long term version of fascism lol

2018-12-11 23:02:49 UTC  

eh

2018-12-11 23:02:57 UTC  

Monarchy is the most heavenly form of government

2018-12-11 23:02:57 UTC  

some would agree

2018-12-11 23:03:07 UTC  

> let's just give the king's son power and see what happens lmao how could this go wrong

2018-12-11 23:03:08 UTC  

Monarchy is bad tbh

2018-12-11 23:03:10 UTC  

it just seems like fascism with a defined line of succession

2018-12-11 23:03:20 UTC  

the monarchy dice is a bad roll a lot of the time

2018-12-11 23:03:23 UTC  

The great chain of being extends from God down to the King down to the family patriarch

2018-12-11 23:03:24 UTC  

Best Roman emperors were all adopted. Circulation of elites is important

2018-12-11 23:03:53 UTC  

@Sam Southern - TN Not really Fascism was an attempt to get close to what monarchy was before it was overthrown by Communists.

2018-12-11 23:04:00 UTC  
2018-12-11 23:04:11 UTC  

I'm way late to that conversation, but @Goose "What have they conserved?" Is may favourite.

2018-12-11 23:04:16 UTC  

Fascism was trying to fill the void monarchy left, not build on it

2018-12-11 23:04:29 UTC  

Let's just let Ivanka be the next president because muh monarch's child

2018-12-11 23:04:39 UTC  

Monarchy is not fascism and fascism is not attempt to make a secular Monarchy.

2018-12-11 23:05:02 UTC  

@Jacob epic women cant normally inherent

2018-12-11 23:05:04 UTC  

To be fair to the line is succession bit, I kinda see the logic that someone trained from birth to lead would theoretically be very well suited to lead.

2018-12-11 23:05:12 UTC  

Neither is Monachy totalitarian as the rings of hierarchy were, are, clearly defined and limited

2018-12-11 23:05:40 UTC  

@MrDefault okay let's let Baron be president without knowing what kind of person he'll grow up to be

2018-12-11 23:05:41 UTC  

@Sam Southern - TN agreed 100% it just sucks that it doesnt always work out that way

2018-12-11 23:06:07 UTC  

@Sam Southern - TN If the first ruler was the one that was genetically the best of the tribe it would make sense that those genes would be passed down from father to son.

2018-12-11 23:06:37 UTC  

Imagine unironically not supporting a Barron cyber monarchy

2018-12-11 23:06:43 UTC  

this tbh ^

2018-12-11 23:07:04 UTC  

☝🏻

2018-12-11 23:07:08 UTC  

If genes determined 100% of behavior, monarchy would be great.

In real life, it's a massive dice roll.

How many of you actually turned out politically similar to your parents?

2018-12-11 23:07:08 UTC  

okay I'm out for now. Gotta finish a paper. anyone want to continue this autism later ping me

2018-12-11 23:07:32 UTC  

My jeans are cool.

2018-12-11 23:07:42 UTC  

@Jacob The church did play a huge role in filtering out unsavory monarchs.

2018-12-11 23:07:42 UTC  

I prefer basketball shorts

2018-12-11 23:08:29 UTC  

uhh ya I'd rather not give the Catholic Church any political power but that's probably not a topic for this server

2018-12-11 23:08:39 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-11 23:08:44 UTC  

Yeah

2018-12-11 23:09:01 UTC  

Rome was strongest when the Senate familial clans (the Gens) were pure and intact

2018-12-11 23:09:25 UTC  

A heritidary nobility provides a genepool for good rulers

2018-12-11 23:09:41 UTC  

This was Plato's ideal as well

2018-12-11 23:09:49 UTC  

New rules of primogeniture could be established that factor in genetic pedgree as well as accomplishments in adult life, the Gens Imperator could be renewed every generation by the election of a new rule based on a series of standards to draw from a general aristocratic class

2018-12-11 23:09:53 UTC  

There's a big debate around the role of the Aristocracy and the role it plays in a monarchy. Not a lot of love for the merchant class

2018-12-11 23:10:38 UTC  

Circulation of genes is essential but it should be slow and we'll selected

2018-12-11 23:12:08 UTC  

Selection is key for sure