looks like we're probably going full blue, huh?

why no voice chat here?

Personally I believe it's all the deep state trying to get rid of Trump - the Russia probe, the Ukraine phone call / impeachment, trying to get Cohen/Flynn/Stone to incriminate Trump - and even COVID was probably manufactured as the final attempt

It was suspect when the media said one day after the election that it was the best election ever, 100% perfect with zero fraud - how would they know so quickly? Just makes people think the media is in on some cover-up.

the media should have allowed that this election was unprecedented with all the mail in voting, giving the possibility of fraud

At the very least there is a double standard and media and big tech all colluding with dems 😆

I wish we used only paper ballots, and each ballot has an rfid or something to validate it - and require voter id everywhere. Then we could avoid all this crap.

only in-person voting unless your handicapped or military

If a state is saying there was no fraud, does the federal government have a right to say "we don't believe you - show us all the data you reviewed to conclude that"?

If a state is saying there was no fraud, does the federal government have a right to say "we don't believe you - show us all the data you reviewed to conclude that"? -- that's what Trump's lawyers were requesting from the state legislatures

I remember reading one of the fact checks on the dominion vote switching conspiracy saying "it can't possibly be true because Republicans will win the GA runoff" - then both seats went blue 😆

Of course, Trump suppressed voter turn out with all fraud allegations... still made me chuckle though. I think a lot of the fact checks are true but some of them seem biased.

I think Trump lawyers and witnesses had suspicions of fraud based on publicly available data - they wanted to gather more data during discovery but cases were thrown out. No idea if they have a right to do that - I can see it might look like fishing.

Supposing there was fraud in a state election, and supposing all voters in that state are fine with it - does the federal gov have a right to contest it?

thanks, just curious 🙂

Yep, the fact that he won in 2016 does seem to invalidate a lot of the conspiracy theories (other than the massive mail in voting and alleged lack of accurate signature verification)

@james j agreed

I guess there was a lack of trust on the part of republican poll watchers - but probably no violations of state law there

having Abrams and her sister involved in all this doesn't help either. Republicans are saying Abrams was actually in charge of anything related to voting in GA 😆

right - more related to ballot harvesting if I remember right

What type of influence did Facebook potentially have on the elections? I heard they made some massive donations, and maybe they targeted dems to get out and vote?

Again probably nothing illegal there 😆

makes sense

here's an interesting article: https://www.militarytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2021/01/03/the-military-would-put-down-michael-flynns-proposed-insurrection/

...comforting to not have to worry about a military coup 😄

If we keep going down the deplatform path, I can see a future where we have a social credit score and just ban certain individuals from using any social media - and have more government control to prevent new apps from popping up.

I'd rather see intelligient law enforcement that can monitor threats made on a platform and react to them - rather than prevent speech

maybe we can just ban encrypted social media apps

The fed warned the mayor of dc about riots but she refused to allow their support

guessing the dems secretly wanted an attack so they can have an excuse to progress with their agendas unimpeded

still waiting to hear why the police let the supporters past the gate around the capital

the outer gate

also the protesters got in through those glass windows - maybe brick them up so it can't happen again, or use bullet proof, reinforced wire mesh glass

guessing that won't happen 😆

they have enough underground escape tunnels that they shouldn't even need windows

also that door to the inner chamber should be more heavy - like a vault haha

it's irritating that trump let this happen - it was a dumb idea marching to the capital building with alex jones

but it's also irritating that when trump posted a video say "i love you all, and i understand why you're angry, but you need to go home".... MPR turns it into a hit video and they remove the "but you need to go home" part

and the hit video is playing some scary black sabbath music, with rioters screaming in the background, while trump is heard saying "I love you" 😆

they've been playing it everyday non-stop

I want to listen to mpr but everything latetly has a racist spin on it

I don't remember

so is this guy crazy, or what? lol https://rumble.com/vcl9r3-gen.-mcinerny-we-got-pelosis-laptop.html

I dont' think anything good can come of this

Even if Italy officially 'confirmed' dominion voting fraud, nobody would believe it - couldn't use it to justify a Trump takeover

nothing on the laptop could be trusted either - b/c they could manipulate it

big mess - hope Trump doesn't do anything crazy based on some conspiracy theory or bad info

The level of rhetoric against the Russians is a bit concerning

China seems like a much clearer threat

Dems probably trying to get china on-board so they can clean up their act - but it's not going to play out like that lol Then I guess there are also investors that want to see China grow

The lack of Dem concern about Swalwell is funny too.

Nothing to see here folks lol

But I think the main concern for dems is just having control of the house/senate. I doubt they are really colluding with China to adopt communism. That feels more like a conspiracy that developed naturally as a result of trying to get China acting as a world player and to develop clean energy etcc

https://www.monstersandcritics.com/celebrity/fact-check-no-pope-francis-was-not-arrested-on-an-80-count-indictment-after-vatican-blackout-hoax-claim-sweeps-the-internet/

fair enough, we can wait 11 days

ah ok

yep conspiracy theories continuously adapt lol. I think the Q stuff has been going on for 10 years?

AJ really pumps those supplements hard lol I watch him every 6 months or so, and everytime he's like "this just lost me 2 pounds" and he's still the same as ever lol

Well be interesting after Biden is in, if the Dems suddenly find evidence of republican election fraud and startup some proceedings and talk about how the minorities were disenfranchised and discriminated against 😆

maybe an inquisition on how the republicans tried to steal the election - the dems need 100% control

how does Elijah fit into this? was he in the capital riots?

did the bbc reporters go into the capital? Or they just don't like Ellija or he's not credentialed?

yum

sounds like Elijah got smeared - feel sorry for him. Hope he gets vindicated

lol

the idea that they could hack into the satellite, find the vote data going through it, and swap it, seems just to incredible to be true. there are easier ways to commit fraud and switching the data en-route might be detectable after a paper audit

doesn't make sense why dominion would have traffic flowing through all these countries either

too many things to go wrong if you were trying to switch votes lol

I think they did two audits, the trump lawyers just didn't trust that the paper ballots were valid/real or that signature matching was done up to par

and you can't redo signature verification after envelopes are shredded

in-person voting, with voter id, and without any adjudication would prevent most of the allegations

I'd love to see a revote just to see if the outcome changes 🍿

but also want to move past all this craziness

yeah I just mean it doesn't come into play with in-person 'console' voting

I really don't believe Trump wants to be a hitler - but I could be wrong I guess lol

conservatives are very welcoming of minorities... it doesn't make a lot of sense

I think dems just didn't like Trump building a wall to purge their future voting base

Biden's just the mouth piece of Sauron lol

I would like to interview a good sampling of African Americans and see if they are actually terrified or not by seeing a confederate flag in the capital during the riots...as MSM would have you believe. Maybe there really is a fear that the south will rise again - especially when the media talks about rasicm non-stop. But it's hard to imagine anyone would believe that is possible or that more than a handful of trumpers are white supremisists.

I'm am sure that both sides has some irrational and unfounded fear of the other side

really the key to peace is for everyone to come together and push through that fear

99% of people are good people haha

The strategical thing for Trump might be to resign with a wonderful, loving concession speech to everyone... then he can have the possibility to run again. But dems and rino's would probably impeach him anyway after he resigned lol

if you're moving at all in a car protesters will say you're trying to kill them lol

you better turn the car off

just keep a BLM hat in your car for emergencies in case you get stuck in something lol

I wish antifa would quit using those green lasers to blind people - doesn't seem right

" I have a right to blind you because I disagree with you "

95% of cops are good, just trying to get home safe

maybe I'm never up that way

Guess i'm in more a rural area

really? lol

I remember the cop that pulled me over in a speed trap in chicago wasn't very friendly lol (speed limit went from 85 to 30 in about 100 ft)

I assume those are the poll watchers

I did hear lots of witnesses talking about this though

woah don't get us banned bro

we need to moderate that type of talk

https://twitter.com/nygovcuomo/status/1348673192609591296?s=21 😆 😆 😆

@TaLoN132 especially this was distracting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o4DLcH9U_Y