Big Tobacco lawyers said there is obviously no fraud and we can present no case for fraud that will change the election. They are overwhelmingly more competent than Trumps band of loons

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire no, you have a accusation of mass voter fraud you bring your evidence.

No amount of court cases or evidence would have ever stopped the violence and unrest because it was never based on facts or logic or reality

You can just say fraud and all of a sudden there is fraud

When you views are based on delusion and lies there’s unlimited excuses for why another court case and another didn’t work

So back to what I said trump in Texas and Italy gate real sit back and let’s watch

Read the Wisconsin state statutes fraud.

Again I addressed the courts . The Trump team didn’t bring hardly any actual fraud cases. Of the ones they did the evidence was looked at and evaluated @AdvanceManExtraordinaire

Will trump supporters commit acts of violence in the future??? . 100% they will

Evedence was never allowed to be seen

FBi most be busy all hands on deck

Will antifa / BLM commit acts of violence in the future??? 100% they will

If a state is saying there was no fraud, does the federal government have a right to say "we don't believe you - show us all the data you reviewed to conclude that"? -- that's what Trump's lawyers were requesting from the state legislatures

@Friedrich, you just advanced to level 2!

When Trump lost they said eh let’s go to the courts. Lost in courts they said state legislatures can rig this thing. That didn’t work they said VP can just seize power. No US congress can just steal the election. No wait riots determine the winner. There’s never been a goalpost that cannot be moved. Don’t pretend any amount of facts or news reporting was preventing another delusion

@Beth thats copyrighted

Lmao

Mail in ballots illegal in Wisconsin.

It is in fact possible for courts to get rulings wrong (when they choose to hear a case). Is BLM crowd justified in being upset with courts ruling guilty on defendants with planted evidence? Of course.

Threats or gutless judges???

I remember reading one of the fact checks on the dominion vote switching conspiracy saying "it can't possibly be true because Republicans will win the GA runoff" - then both seats went blue 😆

@Beth gotta hire Guliani maybe he can win one case

He did good for New York back in the day, I like to remember the good things

Of course, Trump suppressed voter turn out with all fraud allegations... still made me chuckle though. I think a lot of the fact checks are true but some of them seem biased.

Yes he did.. he clean the city

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire again they presented almost no fraud cases. The evidence they did provide was such trash they got laughed out of court. All these claims that were at the hearing were either unverifiable claims or have been debunked. There is no case. The courts did not get these rulings wrong. “Let the courts decided”- Giuliani . There is a reason they didn’t pursue the evidence route of fraud. It’s because the did not have any.

And I think we need someone to do that again, in various places across the country

I simply disagree that that was the case. I don’t believe they had a fair hearing in these states and the judges were under great duress, and felt they had no standing to overturn an entire election despite the facts presented.

It simply means the judges are out for themselves.

Post less and read more statutes.

@Kaptain Tailhook, you just advanced to level 3!

I think Trump lawyers and witnesses had suspicions of fraud based on publicly available data - they wanted to gather more data during discovery but cases were thrown out. No idea if they have a right to do that - I can see it might look like fishing.

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire then present a specific court case

@Beth he did with a strong crime apprehension policy.. but now if the government is to strong in crime base places they get accused of abuse of power

They said there was mountains of evidence but they couldn’t show anyone the evidence until court. Then in court there was nothing. They said they couldn’t present their evidence in court and then again refused to show evidence. They trotted some fake shit that couldn’t hold up in court before some state congresses. Still waiting for that evidence of “obvious fraud”. 😂

standing when used in these cases were not used on fraud cases @AdvanceManExtraordinaire Texas and Pennsylvania were not fraud cases

In Pennsylvania, the court system had the duty to enforce the rules and throw out votes that were not cast and counted according to the procedures set forth by their constitution. They simply failed to do so and did not throw out these votes.

If it can fool me it can fool a judge just isn’t a legal basis for proving fraud

That is true. We just need some consistency. Everything is so politicised. It’s not good for anyone

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire penn was not a fraud case

Supposing there was fraud in a state election, and supposing all voters in that state are fine with it - does the federal gov have a right to contest it?