Hey guys! Happy to be here

Hey @Skwərl

With a schwa in your name

It is cool. And makes more sense than the actual spelling.

Which looks like it should be 2 syllables

p!catch <slowpoke>

Really? Looks just like a slowpoke to me

p!catch <Slowpoke>

p!catch slowpoke

start

p!pick Litten

p!catch slowpoke

Darn, I guess it ran away 😛

p!info

He or she is adorable

p1catch dedenne

p!catch dedenne

Yay!

p!catch swalot

I'm happy to pay taxes for it, it's cheaper than paying for the kid

But I think there should be a thing where if the father wants the kid they figure out a way to get the kid to term, even if they have to transfer the fertilized egg to someone else or something

Oh, I definitely agree about prevention first

Ideally, not being able to have kids would be the default and you'd need to do something special when you want kids, rather than the opposite, but it's science-fiction at this point

Yeah, if we had this kind of technology you're right that abortion wouldn't make sense unless the baby is malformed or something

Then it would be more like birds who lay eggs, you'd want to transfer it to someone who wants it

Yeah, but they'd probably need at least 20 more for most people 😛

That would be ideal, as then nobody would need to suffer the side effects of carrying the baby

And the only reason to oppose it would be "I don't want someone to have my genes" which seems very petty if there are parents who want the child

I mean, as long as you don't get hit with having to pay when the people who get the child decide they want money

I don't see why there would be more than now

Although it would be best if babies were ONLY grown in a lab, then you wouldn't have one accidentally

Well, yeah, you'd want to reduce unwanted pregnancies

I mean the US has a huge amount of unwanted pregnancies but other countries with better sex ed have way less

Maybe the artificial wombs would be reserved for babies that have parents waiting for them

Having one parent isn't necessarily a problem if you have a lot of other supportive adults around

But I think we agree in the big picture, that we should start with better education and available birth control. And ideally birth control for men too, and not just permanent one

I've heart about the "heat" method but it's really not practical

You have to dip your balls in hot (but bearable) water every day for like 30 minutes

I mean, not realistic

Yeah, I don't think it's people saying they don't want men to have birth control. I know a lot of women support the idea too, and lots of guys would want the option obviously

Oh, that's good if I'm misremembering. I remembered it being a pain

And there were also underwear that would help but I don't remember the detail of those either

"Suspensories" is the underwear. I kept thinking "suspenders"

Nice!

Here is some info on the different methods, although very basic https://www.livescience.com/54105-which-male-birth-control-works.html

Yeah, I hear you

I trust science too, but there haven't been that many studies done on these methods, although they seem to work if you're doing them consistently

p!catch Minccino

Well, I understand being ginger about methods that seem too "home-remedy-ey"

Are you serious? What states?

Oooh, it's fine if you do it for free

Yeah, technically tons of things are illegal to do for money without a license

Nah, it's to protect the industry

I had a friend who was a wedding photographer. She charged too little and got into trouble for it

She had the license and everything but other wedding photographer complained that it was unfair competition

Yeah

Same kind of thing, and stupid. They wanted the right to overcharge

She ended up switching to taking pictures of babies, apparently people are less annoyed about competition in that field

Depending on the haircut, you can get a trimmer that does the job fine

Harder if you have longer hair though

I usually cut my hair myself, but I also don't care too much if it looks a bit weird. I have short hair right now, but I used to have shoulder-length hair. I used scissors then, not trimmers.

Wow, I don't know this one at all

p!catch gogoat

Ai probably wouldn't care about where it's hosted

This is more like.... cutting your nails

Something that is both human and alive

I think the difficult part of the issue is that I don't want someone to force someone else to carry a child

But I also don't want father to have no say

I disagree with abortion being murder because that makes miscarriages manslaughter

And a woman who just lost a baby she wanted shouldn't have to go to jail on top of that

I agree with that

I think... I think what I would want the most is that if the father wanted the baby to be aborted and the mother decides to keep it, he can't be asked to pay child support

Yeah

I guess the only thing guys can do if they don't want kids is do their best to avoid the pregnancy and hope for the best

Most abortions are earlier than that, you just take a pill that causes a miscarriage

You're talking about a late-term abortion

Maybe, but if the woman wants to get rid of the baby it's better than drinking or getting into an accident on purpose and possibly getting a baby with health problems and stuff

Well, I don't believe in haunted uteruses so that helps

Well, that's why you use protection. Like the ghostbuster's suits. But called a condom

Otherwise, best bet is probably not to have sex. I mean you won't really know

Well. Celibacy and vasectomies work too

And adoption

Or you could find someone who's actually worth trusting

You can check if your condom has a hole in it before you open it

Try to move the air around, if there are holes it will escape

Well, someone who also doesn't want kids could work, or someone who is sterile, if you want to be super sure

But I think you're dramatizing, you have other options than suicide

Celibacy, vasectomy and non reproductive sex

Oh, yeah, after that I guess you could declare bankruptcy... maybe try to sue her for getting a kid behind your back but I doubt you'll get far.

After there is a baby, yeah, way harder

Although not all women will ask for child support

If you don't want to stay in a relationship with her, then I guess your best bet is to be unable to find

But you're not a father now as far as I can tell so yeah, I agree, better to work on prevention

Honestly, you're not even there yet. And if you were, there would be people you can talk to that could help you

And I mean, killing yourself is giving up ALL the money you'd have been making instead of part of it so not sure why it's better

I'm talking about future money. Once you're dead you can't earn it and buy stuff you want. You're losing a lot more than some of your money. It's disproportionate

So does everything else. For you

If you're depressed and stuff it's obviously not your fault, maybe you can get on meds to help, but getting motivated in the first place is the big problem

I think he means it can't get much worse