Message from @Avistew

Discord ID: 540030082857697300


2019-01-30 04:34:43 UTC  

Yeah, I don't think it's people saying they don't want men to have birth control. I know a lot of women support the idea too, and lots of guys would want the option obviously

2019-01-30 04:35:22 UTC  

Actually not that frequently. I read a chart about how long and how hot to sterilize for X days/months. I think the data was gathered in India.

2019-01-30 04:35:49 UTC  

I think the pharmaceutical industry would jump at the opportunity to charge men for something on the long-term like birth control, honestly

2019-01-30 04:35:54 UTC  

Oh, that's good if I'm misremembering. I remembered it being a pain

2019-01-30 04:36:14 UTC  

And there were also underwear that would help but I don't remember the detail of those either

2019-01-30 04:37:32 UTC  

There is a leaf the Malaysian government was studying for male BC. It is available now as an "herbal suppliment".

2019-01-30 04:38:25 UTC  

Next time I am in Malaysia I'll procure seeds. 😇

2019-01-30 04:38:32 UTC  

"Suspensories" is the underwear. I kept thinking "suspenders"

2019-01-30 04:38:42 UTC  

Nice!

2019-01-30 04:39:22 UTC  

Eh honestly I want something studied and approved by the FDA, I'm not super willing to risk 18 years of financial responsibility on what amounts to a home remedy

2019-01-30 04:39:30 UTC  

Here is some info on the different methods, although very basic https://www.livescience.com/54105-which-male-birth-control-works.html

2019-01-30 04:39:41 UTC  

Yeah, I hear you

2019-01-30 04:40:17 UTC  

I trust good science more than the FDA. The government is swayed by politics. Science is science.

2019-01-30 04:40:56 UTC  

Wouldn't the government jump at the chance to reduce accidental children and thus state dependence?

2019-01-30 04:41:15 UTC  

I trust science too, but there haven't been that many studies done on these methods, although they seem to work if you're doing them consistently

2019-01-30 04:43:00 UTC  

I do not think the government jumps on anything because it is good. They do it because the politicians decided it is in their personal best interest.

2019-01-30 04:44:22 UTC  

Otherwise, explain to me why it is illegal to cut hair without a license in some states.

2019-01-30 04:44:34 UTC  

Well, I understand being ginger about methods that seem too "home-remedy-ey"

2019-01-30 04:44:49 UTC  

Are you serious? What states?

2019-01-30 04:46:45 UTC  

Oooh, it's fine if you do it for free

2019-01-30 04:47:01 UTC  

There are raids. People get arrested. It benefits no one but the industry that lobbied for it. It saves no one.

2019-01-30 04:47:01 UTC  

Yeah, technically tons of things are illegal to do for money without a license

2019-01-30 04:48:34 UTC  

Doing it for free doesn't make it any safer. Being safer is the premise for requiring a license.

2019-01-30 04:49:00 UTC  

Nah, it's to protect the industry

2019-01-30 04:49:02 UTC  

That is like saying you can own a nucnear bomb as long as you built it yourself.

2019-01-30 04:49:19 UTC  

I had a friend who was a wedding photographer. She charged too little and got into trouble for it

2019-01-30 04:50:01 UTC  

She had the license and everything but other wedding photographer complained that it was unfair competition

2019-01-30 04:50:04 UTC  

Also the industry protecting itself at her expense.

2019-01-30 04:50:08 UTC  

Yeah

2019-01-30 04:50:18 UTC  

Same kind of thing, and stupid. They wanted the right to overcharge

2019-01-30 04:51:11 UTC  

She ended up switching to taking pictures of babies, apparently people are less annoyed about competition in that field

2019-01-30 04:52:30 UTC  

At least there are clever ways around it sometimes. I like that Uber has killed the taxi monopoly.

2019-01-30 04:54:17 UTC  

We just need better tools to cut our own hair.

2019-01-30 04:54:49 UTC  

Depending on the haircut, you can get a trimmer that does the job fine

2019-01-30 04:54:55 UTC  

Harder if you have longer hair though

2019-01-30 04:55:07 UTC  

I go to one person for a haircut. I trusted her for years.

2019-01-30 04:55:10 UTC  

I tried that once. The result was not pretty.

2019-01-30 04:55:32 UTC  

10 bucks (15 with tip but still).

2019-01-30 04:55:47 UTC  

I had long hair. I wanted to cut it myself real bad.

2019-01-30 04:58:10 UTC  

I will surely try again sometime. Preferably on a weekend so I can still save myself before Monday morning.