I am pro choice, I think the father's wishes should be given a bit more weight in the issue, it's not a simple argument and all sides carry good points

people will hunt you down even if you go to another country to hide from paying childsupport

if you went to space they would use Elon musk to hunt your escape pod down and bring you back

no, a lot of men manage to skip child support by moving country, the issue is that interest still builds up, so you still owe the money but they just can't force it from you if you are not there

thus making suicide the only option for us

it's not

that is a very dangerous way of thinking

Well. Celibacy and vasectomies work too

And adoption

its either pay unfair amounts of money to the whore who tampered with your condoms and got pregnant with a kid you didnt want or put a bullet through your skull

men suffering from things shouldn't be told death is the only option, because that is a lie that will only bring them more pain

Or you could find someone who's actually worth trusting

You can check if your condom has a hole in it before you open it

Try to move the air around, if there are holes it will escape

good luck with finding a partner you can trust in current year

Well, someone who also doesn't want kids could work, or someone who is sterile, if you want to be super sure

the trust ratio between men and women is at an all time low

But I think you're dramatizing, you have other options than suicide

I like to think I am trustworthy for my partner, so we are out there, but it will be difficult to find someone if you do nothing but wallow in negativity and self-loathing.

name 3 options a man who doesnt want to be a father and doesnt want to pay for a kid he didnt want has

Celibacy, vasectomy and non reproductive sex

getting the snip, using protection, or just not having sex... or find a girl willing to take it in the ass

i meant afterwards

also we are getting really close to a birth control pill for men 😃

after the kid is born

Oh, yeah, after that I guess you could declare bankruptcy... maybe try to sue her for getting a kid behind your back but I doubt you'll get far.

After there is a baby, yeah, way harder

Although not all women will ask for child support

it's better to be preventative, but it is why we are trying to fight for more protection to fathers

9/10 women ask for childsupport

If you don't want to stay in a relationship with her, then I guess your best bet is to be unable to find

trying to be productive instead of just complaining.

But you're not a father now as far as I can tell so yeah, I agree, better to work on prevention

but when prevention is nolonger an option suicide is painless

no suicide is not painless

only if you do it right and dont fuck it up

no, that's not true at all

suicide is immensely destructive to those in your life

even a bullet to the head, you will be in extreme pain for a few seconds as your nerves are still completely active

Honestly, you're not even there yet. And if you were, there would be people you can talk to that could help you

And I mean, killing yourself is giving up ALL the money you'd have been making instead of part of it so not sure why it's better