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Hello daar julle, thanks.

Alex Jones is a fraud.

See if you can find his 9-11 crying video on youtube. It's hilarious.

9-11. NO PLANES.

https://youtu.be/43QPbgtTYLQ?t=399 (Alex Jones fake crying on 911)

Hegel's Dialectic... The illusion of choice.

So wanneer bring ons die doodstraf terug?

@Shweetness Daar is geen incentive om nie te moor nie. Net die debat om dit sal al klaar 'n goeie start wees.

So ons moet maar liewer niks doen nie en sien wat gebeur?

@Shweetness Hoe gaan iemand dit teen ons gebruik?

@Arcade_Hustle They are the biggest perpetrators of apartheid the world has ever seen. They shoot Palenstinian children in wheelchairs who come to close to the border.

@Arcade_Hustle Ah a quick personal attack because I don't agree with your opinion?

@Arcade_Hustle Isis-ra-hell isn't even a real country. They are stealing the ancient lands from the Palestinians and genociding them daily. And the MSM is quiet.

@Arcade_Hustle You don't know who I hate or don't hate, so that is really not for you to say. All I care about is the truth.

@Arcade_Hustle You know the Syrian desert where the Israelites allegedly travelled for 40 years? Yeah that desert takes two to three weeks to cross... on foot.

@Friday Even better

@Arcade_Hustle I'm sure your opinion matters, just not to me. Cheers.

@KoninginTanja That's nice of them lol.

@cµrvy The Israelis are genociding the Palestinians in Paelstine, and the Blacks are genociding the whites in South Africa. Same thing.

@cµrvy Almost impossible to change that perception when they own the entire MSM.

Ah ok thanks. Henceforth I shall refer to them as "the people being genocided by the Israelis". 👍

@Malcolm the Seceder And that attitude and level of spirituality is exactly why the entire world is completely and utterly FCUK'd.

@Malcolm the Seceder You preach hate, you attract hate. Maybe it's time to stop hating dude.

@Malcolm the Seceder If you still believe the official 911 narrative then I can't help you.

@Shiver Howzit dude yes I am.

To be honest with you, EVERYONE is a flat earther.

Maybe the mods can make a #FlatEarth for us?

No I mean somewhere we we can debate?

This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace.

@cµrvy The movement is growing exponentially because you lot haven't come up with even ONE piece of empirical evidence for the HELIOCENTRIC model, which incidentally is named after HELIOS, the Greek God of the Sun. Where us flat earth morons can come up with over 200. Have you figured out what the "Education" system is all about yet?

It's called Density and Buoyancy. And please tell me which instrument I can use to measure Gravity "empirically".

Gravity? Where's your proof of gravity?

Why is it still a theory after 500 years?

What instrument can I use to measure it?

@HoppeanSnake_ZA How was the 1600kmph speed of earth's axial rotation measured? When, where and what instruments were used?

Four conclusive experiments performed by the top scientists of their day proved that the Sun, Moon and stars revolve around us, and that Earth is the fixed, motionless centre of the universe.

The Michelson-Morley, Michelson-Gale, Airy's Failure and Sagnac experiments scientifically proved Geocentrism and nearly crushed the dying Heliocentric theory until Mr. Einstein came through with his Special Relativity mathematical denial of the proven Aether and philosophically (not scientifically) banished the Aether from study ever since.

These studies and peer reviewed experiments are never covered in any university courses. These conclusive peer-reviewed and repeated scientific results are nowhere debated or denied, merely suppressed and ignored. The fact of the matter is that Geocentrism has been conclusively proven for over a century.

In 1913 Sagnac conducted an experiment to test the speed and constancy of light and proved the existence of the Aether (Disproves relativity) Therefore, The Michelson-Morley experiment, conducted using an interferometer clearly demonstrated that the Earth was motionless. The Michelson-Gale experiment detected the Aether/Firmament passing over the surface of the motionless Earth. Airy's Failure, demonstrated that it is the stars moving relative to a stationary Earth, and not the fast orbiting Earth moving relative to comparatively stationary stars.

@HoppeanSnake_ZA Are you avoiding my question?

I shall post my question again. @HoppeanSnake_ZA How was the 1600kmph speed of earth's axial rotation measured? When, where and what instruments were used?

Why are you avoiding my question?

@HoppeanSnake_ZA How was the 1600kmph speed of earth's axial rotation measured? When, where and what instruments were used?

You only speculated as to how it may be done.

When was this done?

What instruments were used?

I'm just getting warmed up.

Notice carefully which side of the argument gets personal first.

@cµrvy Well then why don't you just post the evidence for your model to make me go away? You completely ignored one of my previous posts which tells you which peer-reviewed papers you can go look up. If you had any proof of your Heliocentric philosophical fantasy you would have posted it by now. Edit Typo

@Hyko Great question. It's more about the implications. Firstly, educational. If the earth actually is flat, how and why is Heliocentrism taught if it's not the truth? What does that say about the entire education system? (Same goes for evolution by the way). Secondly (and more importantly in my opinion) , we have the spiritual implications. People say they believe in God, the Bible etc, and they are Christian and believe that their God, who made the Earth, LIED to them in their very own Bible.

The Heliocentric model is ENTIRELY theoretical. There exists not ONE piece of empirical evidence for Gravity, the axial rotation of earth, or the missing curvature.

Excellen post @Sheamus , you nailed it. The "Education" system is nothing more than forced indoctrination. Memorize & repeat.

And repetition is the most basic form of mind control.

@Tjoppie This is roughly what it looks like and how it works. Note however that the motion of the moon is not correct. https://youtu.be/T5HThnlBpi8

@Sheamus I have no doubt whatsoever that it is a deliberate fraud. Perpetrated with intent to deceive. Because you don't teach your slaves how to make guns. And trust me when I say the big picture is a thousand times more unbelievable than flat earth itself.

@Tjoppie That is not correct sorry. The Heliocentric model can not describe seasons or even length of day. It fails logically long before you even get to the experiments.

Quoting "Heaven and Earth by Gabrielle Henriet,

“The theory of the rotation of the earth may once and for all be definitely disposed of as impracticable by pointing out the following inadvertence. It is said that the rotation takes twenty-four hours and that its speed is uniform, in which case, necessarily, days and nights should have an identical duration of twelve hours each all the year round. The sun should invariably rise in the morning and set in the evening at the same hours, with the result that it would be the equinox every day from the 1st of January to the 31st of December. One should stop and reflect on this before saying that the earth has a movement of rotation. How does the system of gravitation account for the seasonal variations in the lengths of days and nights if the earth rotates at a uniform speed in twenty-four hours!?”

Time-zones

Gleasons map from 1892

https://youtu.be/nUFMZkxochs?t=5375 (EXPERIMENT #1 Showing no apparent drift whatsoever)

(EXPERIMENT #2 - 6 hours - still no movement) https://youtu.be/IGPSjgv9t3E

""Idealogically driven" my arse.

@Sheamus Our ability to reason is driven by our natural innate curiosity about the world. You know how curious little kids are? That ability is supposed to always be with us throughout our lives. We are supposed to try and fathom the unfathomable mysteries of life. And that is why the Educational Indoctrination system exists - to cure the curiosity and turn us into a tax-paying wage-slaves who thinks they know everything about the world and there is nothing more to learn. - If you're not curious about the world, you might as well be dead. EDIT Fixed typos

@Sheamus Can I also just say that in order to be able to reason logically as well as think critically, one needs a baseline of truth - one major proven thing - and from there, all knowledge about the rest of the system can be deduced logically. And that is where the flat earth comes in. The most easily proven conspiracy of all time. Also the biggest.

@Sheamus "Ideology is at the core of our ability to reason". I have to disagree with that one. Ideology is a modern man-made contraption. My reasoning is driven by a thirst for truth. Has been for the last 20 years or so.

Correct, however, the nature of reality as we experience it every day is what I'm on about. All my Flat Earth arguments are based in hard science - not ideology. It is all about the Zetetic method of investigation, which is not to try and prove a point, but to examine and test and see what something actually is and how it works. And when you find out what the earth is and how it works, you will start getting an understanding of what a human being actually is. And when we find out exactly & scientifically what this place is and what we are... maybe then we can define our true purpose here on this earth.

Does a river need to have the idea of flowing down-hill before actually flowing down-hill? Or does it just do what's in its nature. Things can happen without an idea.

Ah yes. Nature IS governed by a set of principles. And when you can accurately measure those principles, you may start getting a glimpse into the very nature of man. And isn't that what "Faith" is? An absolute understanding of the nature of your reality and your place in it? See how faith is the same as scientific proof? 😉

I'm out, night all.

May I ask why it matters?

Idealogy in my view is just one more form of social engineering / manipulation. We need to just be, in stead of trying to be something. Because at some point someone is going to write about about what he thinks we should be. Then for the rest of time everyone else who reads that book is going to try and be like that in-stead of living for themselves. Society as we know it is a gigantic fraud.

Same here talk tomorrow. Cheers

@Sheamus Morning. You were right last night, I was drifting a bit with regards to the ideology topic, I will try to explain why I drifted.
I believe the human experience in this Realm / Enclosed System / Bio-Dome was never intended to be experienced by large collectives of people who share the same ideology.
When two or more groups with opposing ideologies starts living too close to each other, or their ideology starts offending the other group's ideology, the only thing that their respective and opposing ideologies can create is division and conflict between the groups. Divide and Conquer 101.
We all may believe in roughly the same things, but our path to the conclusions and the knowledge can never ever be one hundred percent similar as we are all living and learning life though our own personalised life experiences. Which may very well be the entire point of being here in the first place.
In summary then to my mind the human experience is absolutely unique to the individual, and life was never meant to be lived as a large collective. Therefore, I can't really get a handle on why ideology is important.
I hope that makes sense.
I would like to suggest a topic for tonight, yes, I have some info on the subject matter people may or may not find interesting.
Open question for <#469490581899575297>... for discussion after graft today.

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What is Spirituality?

@Sheamus Excellent. 👍

* Yashu (Jesus) was sexually immoral and worshipped a brick.” (Sanhedrin 107b)

* “If a ‘goy’ (Gentile) hits a Jew he must be killed.” (Sanhedrin 58b)

* “If a Jew finds an object lost by a ‘goy’ it does not have to be returned.” (Baba Mezia 24a)

* “If a Jew murders a ‘goy’ there will be no death penalty.” (Sanhedrin 57a)

* What a Jew steals from a ‘goy’ he may keep.” (Sanhedrin 57a)

* “Jews may use subterfuges to circumvent a ‘goy.’” (Baba Kamma 113a)

* “All children of the ‘goyim’ (Gentiles) are animals.” (Yebamoth 98a)

* “Girls born of the ‘goyim’ are in a state of ‘niddah’ (menstrual uncleanness!) from birth.” (Abodah Zarah 36b)

Was looking for a specific one but can't find ir for now.

I've heard The Torah, Old Testament and Quran are pretty similar.

Muh-hollarcaaast

@rob Stick around for the chat tonight.

Should be cool

Schweet

Not talking FE tonight. We are going to try to define the concept of Spirituality. EDIT Fixed typo

I arrived at mine recently too. Because fasting..

But I did Ayahuasca ceremonies in Peru with real Shamans. Trippy shit.

I've graduated christian sunday school , been an atheist, agnostic, scientologist... beproef alles en behou die goeie?

That's the actual place and shamans.

NAILED IT

I was firced into church and sunday school like everyone else I suppose. I hated it. That's where I started searching.

I had a full-on kundalini awakening in May.

Unexpected. Didn't know WTF was going on.

You know your shit. Nice.

Don't forget about the dopamine. The fasting makes you feel really good.. you get a bit more dopamine every day. It's awesome.

Can confirm lol

Remember this from the first Matrix movie?

Mark 3:11

Whenever the impure spirits saw him, they fell down before him and cried out, "You are the Son of God."

The Matrix is a metaphor for life.

I definitely don't believe in coincidences either.

Let me post something that's even more strange than Flat Earth. Shall I?

It's all about frequency. No pun intended.

IRC haha

What?!?! A power failure in SA? No way!

Love it. The motion of the moon is not correct though.

What do you want to calculate?

I strongly suspect that this is how the moon behaves over the circle of the earth, just like the astronomical clock in Prague - which is just a mini flat earth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ijbu-Z3Twk

@rob Oooooh yes that shit is so hot right now! Mud-floods, Phillip Druzhinin. Anatoly Fomenko's work. Yes yes yes that stuff is all true.

1000 years of fake history. Basically the dark ages and medieval times never happened.

There's HUGE problems with history right now.

I firmly believe that our blood is Russian.

Have you ever heard of Great Tartaria?

I mean white people who believe they have Dutch heritage.

Trust me when I say everyone's history is fraudulent. I'll post a good starter video series on the subject.

Let's rock and roll, I'm bored. Spirituality... what is it?

hahaha shit ok we can do it later

@Sheamus Let's not get too formal. Lets just chat and see

@rob In your own personal opinion?

The deepest hole ever drilled is the Kola Ultradeep borehole in Russia somewhere. 12 Kilometers.

@Sheamus Suggestions?

Rob you nailed it again

Materialsim is the opposite of Spirituality.

And from there, you can logically deduce the nature of man.

I'm doing some MS PAINT work brb

To be more precise, materialism and spirituality exist as opposite ends of the same scale. And in order to define spirituality, we must first define materialism.

We are born into the material world right?

Anything you can quantify , or see, or touch. Even your children. EVERYTHING that exists outside of the conscious mind is a materialist attachment.

We love rugby? How can you love rugby if you can also love a woman? Therefore materialism is also everything we do.

The problem today is @rob , everyone believes themselves to be somewhat spiritual, but no one can even define the word.

So... physical things from the material world can not exist in the spiritual world right? Because it's the opposite end of the scale. Therefore, the names and concept of things of the material can not logically exist there.

That's why it is said that God loves everyone equally. Because God literally can not differentiate between people and things. By definition.

beatrice.com/TAO.txt

The Tao Te Ching a modern interpretation of Lao Tzu perpetrated by Ron Hogan

That's the first non-fiction book I've read in 20 years. 2 Months ago I think.

Personally I'd rather get the right answer than pick a winner.

But lets do it.

Ok, you guys sound like seasoned debaters, so one of you please go first?

@rob Get rid of sanctity.
People will understand the truth
and be happier.

Get rid of morality.
People will respect each other
and do what's right.

Get rid of value and profit.
People will not steal
if they do not desire.

If that's not possible, go to Plan B:
Be simple. Be real.
Do your work as best you can.
Don't think about what you get for it.
Stay focused. Get rid of all your crap.

~Lao Tzu

And that scarcity mind set is a huge problem

Value is only needed in a materialist world.

To be spiritual, and to become the definition of spirituality, you have to reject the material world. Not just through fasting. You actually, literally have to start getting rid of your shit. We do not get possessed by demons, we are possessed by our own possessions.

Your mind keeps track of every single penny you have. Every single thing you say and do. Everything you own. And how much you value it.

When you start letting go of the material world - by eating less and doing less - your mind will start waking up.

I fast two to four days a week.

There is a scientifically-provable entirely physiological process that starts when you start fasting.

Imagine the human mind is like a giant one million port Gigabit Network Switch.

Every cent you have have takes up a port.

Every single thing you own is plugged in.

Even your next planned holiday is taking up a few ports already.

What I'm trying to say is, when you start unplugging from the material world, and if you fast diligently, you start going to the kingdom of God.

In my view, the Kingdom of God is the same place as the spiritual place where we get our answers from.

It's very real. Jesus did it. Lao Tzu did it. I think Bruce Lee as well - that physique is because of fasting as well. Zen and Jesus is the same thing

It's a higher state of consciousness. And the Kingdom of God really does live inside of us.

It's being blocked yes absolutely.

By keeping us busy, unhealthy and poor.

That's why they have to teach us a load of shit in school.

Like I said yesterday, you don't teach your slaves how to make guns. You make them as stupid as humanly possible.

That is why I think that if we are going to get out of this shithole we dug for ourselves, we need to fix the people before we can even start thinking about new ideologies.

We all need to start fasting, and awaken to our true nature.

@Sheamus The lazy, unkept and disorganized people are always the spiritual ones.

Picture if you will the Wise Man of the idyllic small village in the mountains. What is the role of the holy man of the village? Obviously he is the spiritual leader. He is also the political adviser to the Chief. He is also the engineer and the doctor. He is also the medicine man. So in my view, Spirituality is knowledge as well the ability to think and reason logically and critically. To have the answers. And isn't that what people want from their God, answers? Spiritual people live for helping others, materialist people live only for themselves. The spiritual man understands the nature of his reality as well as his place in it. And this ability is meant for everyone. It's natural and physiological. Not ideological.

A three day fast is what Easter is actually about. Your old immune system dies and is born again.

I fast 2-4 days a week.

Been doing that for about 9 or 10 months now.

Lost a shit ton of weight

Cured my own asthma

And some really really cool shit will happen to you if you are disciplined enough.

yup. and black rooibos tea

It's about achieving the desired state of mind. You have to balance your slave life with your spiritual life. Fasting too much makes you too happy and woo-woo and I still have to pay the bills. And for me to feel stress free, relaxed and generally awesome - I need to fast two to four days a week to maintain my Zen space.

I want to see where this whole thing can go.

Best way to try and describe the nature of man is just to bite the bullet and prove everything for yourself.

@Sheamus You can't bullshit Logic.

Heliocentrism is a religion for atheists. No proof makes it faith-based.

going to the shop later

Haematopoietic stem cells renew blood. Accumulation of DNA damage in these cells promotes their decline, while misrepair of this damage initiates malignancies. Here we describe the features and mutational landscape of DNA damage caused by acetaldehyde, an endogenous and alcohol-derived metabolite. This damage results in DNA double-stranded breaks that, despite stimulating recombination repair, also cause chromosome rearrangements. https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25154

No need for shits and giggles. If the Earth was spinning ball, day and night would swop around every six months. The Heliocentric model does not work.

@Sheamus How do I get you to take a serious analytical fact-based approach though?

It's just a matter of perspective.

114,000 feet (21.5 miles)High Altitude Balloon Footage shot with a 120 degree wide angle lens (corrected) https://youtu.be/yBDOt4R6hLY

Watch the whole thing, the camera pans through 360 degrees.

31.7 miles of expected curvature drop-off over a distance of 500 miles.

As measured by AutoCAD.

Planes would NEVER have to gain altitude if we lived on a ball of said size. You just fly straight and the earth drops out from under the AirPLANE.

Yes. Prove it now with a repeatable experiment.

You've had 500 years dammit.

I claim Gravity is just Density and Buoyancy. Here's my proof.

@4rvp You haven't even provided one scrap of evidence for your model - I provided over two hundred for mine - and you want to see my credentials? What's your IQ?

@Trash You claim spaceflight is real but you can't even prove the axial rotation of earth, and now you want to get into the semantics of space and flight suits? How will that prove anything either way?

Where's your scientific method people? Where's your experiments?

Mods, is this acceptable behavior or am I going to be the only banned if I retaliate?

@Daniebees Mods, is this acceptable behavior or am I going to be the only banned if I retaliate?

I never made any claim as to credentials.

Again, I never mentioned lizard people.

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