might be helpful to name the channel as such, for example: general-eng

if that were the case, it wouldn't keep happening

I don't really mind either way, just trying to help

what benefit is there to you to care about this issue or to attempt to convince others?

thank you

I've read all of this, and I don't see a point in arguing it out, because it seems the arguments are ideologically driven, and quite honestly it looks like it is all based on fundamental misunderstandings of the concepts presented. That would lead to circular arguments that I don't believe progress could be made on. I will say I've presented astrophysics research to NASA. I am of fan of history and both models go back to ancient Greece, and proof being found all the way back then. I am also a pilot, and I can perceive the curvature of the planet with my own eyes at a surprisingly low altitude.

That said, there certainly is plenty of junk science out there. There is plenty of reasons to hate the education system/gov etc, without even having to go into anything they deny. They are open about so much nonsense they do, I see no need for even delving into conspiracy issues. I fear you have chosen the wrong hill to die on here.

I'm quite curious how groundmunky intends to get enough boats and food to move millions of people

are you claiming credit for that?

That is why education isn't the answer.

it is happening in so many countries at the same time, it is really crazy

it was difficult to tell the difference for a long time, both sides just expanded on the other

how are you suppose to debate between 2 people who have different 'facts' ?

you won't be able to disprove people who want to believe something else,

facts won't matter to them

I mean the general population, not one individual... it is just the same issue on a larger scale

I see the same duality of reality in much of the world, and in my own country, this is the failure of multiculturalism

no implication of that intended

he is right, stealing everything will create equality, everyone will starve to death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWaxF8jlnm0

the original tweet was posted today