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Dรฆven dere skriver rart <:thunk:462282216467333140>

Men forstรฅelig ihvertfall

Anyway, youre right, social cohesion is the important part.

Democrats will rig it. Im calling it rn

Ofc it will be

2019-07-11 20:35:24 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

If everywhere is the same, there is no point in travel

2019-07-11 20:40:43 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

You go to different places to see what is unique about them, whatever it is that is unique.

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Getting lag too...

2019-07-11 21:04:33 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

Then frankly, youre a migrant, not a tourist.

2019-07-11 21:11:26 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

If you go somewhere because you want to get away from where you are, but you dont want to change the culture youre in. You completely missed the concept of how your culture influences the society around you. Or you completely overestimated how far you need to travel.

2019-07-12 00:45:16 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

@ETBrooD
Ill admit that was written based on more extreme examples in mind, and not all catching. There are always nuances.
Still, if you want to travel to get away from somewhere, i assumed a good reason for wanting to do so. A good reason means you also likely wont want to return any time soon, unless the situation changes.

Freshly fished trout on a stick over the bonfire.

Good times

2019-07-13 21:47:36 UTC [Athens #tholos_general_news]  

"Npc's on the right"
I thought thats what the boomer meme was for...

2019-07-13 22:14:07 UTC [Athens #tholos_general_news]  

You dont win a game you dont play, sure.
But if you lose or not isnt given.

2019-07-13 22:14:44 UTC [Athens #tholos_general_news]  

He is trying to tell you dont play the game

2019-07-14 15:11:42 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

Debates are only really useful for convincing the croud that is listening anyway.

2019-07-14 15:13:54 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

Debating someone with the purpose of changing their mind doesnt work.

2019-07-15 18:37:55 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

Ninth?

2019-07-15 18:38:15 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

Where does it stop then?

you're not allowed to differentiate people based on their ethnic background, _sure_
youre not allowed to differentiate people based on what they belive in - and subsequently of religion, their moral foundation, _go fk yourself_

2019-07-15 23:48:59 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

The more utopian your society already is, the larger amounts of socialism it can handle.

You never know....

Lets "all" be frens

Tho, is it authoritarian if they are not the state?
Basically anarchism without the non agression principle
_you might as well say savagery at that point tho_

I thought it was pretty clear trump didnt put much weight on his words already back in 2016

All this talk of dirty play is senseless imo. I think sanders would have won if there was actual fair play.

As in hillary not rigging the primaries, and fewer people voting trump simply to boycot hillary. Yet people voting sanders to boycot trump would be roughly the same

But idk

_but no, you managed to reduce the choice to a rude lying clown or a warhawk appealing to minorities_

As a strictly heterosexual, im okay with that microwave outcome

@livid_scrooge the one here who is gay is you for thinking the format is static

Imo whats shitty about this situation is that it could be anyone playing dirty against anyone.
We dont know if the pedo's or the non pedo's are sitting with the ace on their hand
Its even up for debate if he is dead.

Best case would be fake death to prevent assasination while the case is under Investigation.
Worst case would be he got fake death bailed by the pedo's, and we got business as usual in a few months.
Somewhere on the worse side of middle you got suicide and successful assasination.

Found a Supreme Commander

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598762150810615808/610414753692778496/Screenshot_20190812-120847.png

If he is atleast half as smart as people think he is, he came to the conclusion that god is a neceseary lie to keep his ideal of Christian culture and civilization alive.

Whats black pilled about that?
Gods are the tools of those who see through them. They always have been and they always will.
Julius Caesar didnt bet his career on becoming his society' equivalent of the pope for nothing.

And youre a based agnostic or what?

2019-08-27 14:23:06 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

Prince of zimbabwe lmao
Fkn shitpost channel

2019-08-31 21:13:15 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

Anyone else not seeing usernames?

2019-08-31 21:13:34 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

Did the mods turn it off?

2019-08-31 21:15:02 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

_but why_

2019-08-31 21:15:49 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

?

National antifa front
_try to tell me tis isnt a joke with a straight face_
I dare ya

That antifa poster is like anti-facism, just without the "anti" part.

2019-09-02 16:00:22 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

I thought the thing with the jews was morally questionable ethics, leading to higher economical success by means of exploitation?
Thats atleast the wibe i got from a truly alt right guy i know

2019-09-02 16:10:13 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

Yes, but (devil advocate)
Jews have a much stronger ingroup preference, and a religion with emphasis on us vs them, aka morals only apply to interactions within ingroup.
_in addition to a superiority and domination complex_
Paraphrased my friend

2019-09-02 16:40:53 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

Ok Mr Sneesby

2019-09-02 16:51:08 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

Wha...
Ohhhhhh
Im so sorry about that
@Jokerfaic

Value comes from work, money comes from banks...
_get it right people_

~~lets go for full ubi, but _it also means you can legaly buy people on ubi_~~

I dont mean what i said was a good idea, just a fun thought experiment.
No usefull people would be on ubi because they would be bought or get a job, who would buy a cripple/useless person as a slave?

I say i can fly, therefor i can

4 = 5

1984 logic

2019-09-12 06:33:13 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

Dont let your memes be dreams.
Those are words to live by

2019-09-12 06:33:21 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

A way of life

2019-09-12 06:39:59 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

You shouldnt feed the hand that bites you indeed...

2019-09-12 06:41:37 UTC [Athens #piraeus_politics_news]  

That said, from an outside and fairly uninformed point of view, The entire situation looks something like this...

w8?

do you not need any ID to vote in the US?

2019-09-17 17:34:56 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

I bet it fits on jreg's compass

2019-09-17 18:10:57 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

https://youtu.be/UuopBeaUN24
23.47
66th spectrum

2019-09-17 18:11:10 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Most important one tbh

2019-09-17 18:14:58 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Oh wait this isnt the wall

2019-09-17 18:16:00 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

And you can say so after watching how many minutes?

2019-09-17 18:16:19 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

5?

2019-09-17 18:17:31 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

_impressive_

2019-09-17 18:18:21 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Did you figure out what way he leans ideologically?

2019-09-17 18:19:08 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

In what direction?

2019-09-17 18:19:46 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

No like, what is the utopia to aim for?

2019-09-17 18:23:38 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

_and you wish to be **where** in this arrangement? _

2019-09-17 18:27:46 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

No like... On a scale from prison - via peasant, citizen, commissar, general... Etc - to part of the triumvirate

2019-09-17 18:29:45 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

No i fucking know it doesnt in your head, but use some common sense and try to imagine your own role in society under this idology

2019-09-17 18:30:56 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

And that would make you in non-nonsense-grandiose-terms A WHAT

2019-09-17 18:38:47 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Assuming the triumvirate is also democratically ellected...
A constitutional democracy with 3 prime ministers on undefined terms.

2019-09-17 19:08:27 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Indeed, because the result will be dependent on the population.
Ok, thats nice, guess i wouldnt mind this kind of system in a city state...
_yes i read all of it_
However i see a load of problems with this on a larger scale...

2019-09-17 19:20:00 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Because it isnt really ideoligical in nature, but rather a form of government. It would be a big blob on the ideological spectrum, touching all but the outer reaches of the spectrum

2019-09-17 19:23:09 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Well that depends on what sort of things you would vote for within your form of government.

2019-09-17 19:25:49 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

If you did not vote within this government of yours, that would make you apolitical, aka defined by the current status, mostly represented by the dead centre spot in the compass

2019-09-17 19:27:05 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

If you vote for strong borders that would put you further up the statist axis...

2019-09-17 19:28:07 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

If you vote for more social safety nets that would make you more economically socialist.

2019-09-17 19:31:14 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

.
From what i can tell by this conversation alone, you have yet to think over what you would actually do once you have your preferred structure of governance.
That is what would place you as an individual on the political compass.

2019-09-17 19:34:06 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

.
Another thing to humor your mind with would be trying to overthrow your own government. _make yourself an effective monarch within the system by _any_ means.

2019-09-17 19:34:56 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Compasses have to be thought of as baselines. You get absolutely nowhere if you think of them as relativistic

2019-09-17 19:35:37 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Ofc not every situation needs the same response

2019-09-17 19:36:37 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

People drift along on the political compass on a monthly basis, centrists are all over the place

2019-09-17 19:40:12 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Introduce a gun in the equation. Do not ever assume people play by the rules.
R. R. Martin put it well: in a game of thrones you win or you die.

2019-09-17 19:43:41 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Eat the elite

2019-09-17 19:45:58 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Another point. An unstable government will by any means availabe seek its own stability. That will forever work against you.

2019-09-17 19:59:02 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

You do realise the entire system rests on 3 people?
Three watchdogs.
Or rather a career militarist, a master of propaganda, and a corporate chill.
I wouldnt bet money on it lasting.
You dont need to follow the laws you enforce. You should, but thats besides the point.
The military commander could make it a dictatorship if he wanted to, the corporate guy could buy the military to make it a dictatorship, or corporate fascism or whatever they want...

2019-09-17 20:00:51 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

The corporate and the propaganda man could fire the head of military until they get one that will obey them...

2019-09-17 20:02:21 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Idk, your job is both to find out how this could potentially fall form the inside and outside, and figure out how to counter it

2019-09-17 20:02:47 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Your system not mine.

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