Message from @Fuksias

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2019-09-17 18:56:06 UTC  

In return for what it produces different local communities give different productive enterprises different right and priviliges.

2019-09-17 18:56:49 UTC  

So in order for an enterprise to be successful it must produce something of an enough value so the locals don't yeet it out of their jurisdiction and give the permits to someone else.

2019-09-17 18:57:14 UTC  

Anyone who can convince a local council he can do some job can get a permit to do any sort of activity.

2019-09-17 18:57:40 UTC  

And once one gets the permit he can HIRE whomever he wants in accordance with the local rules.

2019-09-17 18:58:37 UTC  

This is how business is done in this system and if you want to be successful you must be skilled in a lot of things to be able to run a successful enterprise, which most people-AREN'T!

2019-09-17 18:59:06 UTC  

It means-we don't put anyone as chief of production for something cause muh, family, or the party, or whatever.

2019-09-17 18:59:34 UTC  

And enterprises ARE pitted against each other constantly on a varying scales and for a variety of reasons.

2019-09-17 19:00:32 UTC  

HOWEVER, any enterprise in the modern economy requires the produce of other products, be it materials, machines, special services or whatever.

2019-09-17 19:01:15 UTC  

It means that on some level there must be a SUPERSTRUCTURE which is comprised of various enterprises conflicting over each other for their produce.

2019-09-17 19:02:17 UTC  

This superstructure is what elects the economy representative in the Triumvirate and it's laws and regulations are entirely IN-BUILD by the enterprises themselves, but with in the limits of the constitution.

2019-09-17 19:02:51 UTC  

So, if the constitution says you can't pollute as shit, they can't do it.

2019-09-17 19:03:30 UTC  

Or if the constitution says no nuclear power or no coal, they can't do it either.

2019-09-17 19:04:05 UTC  

Ultimately the judiciary has control over the economy, but if they go too far, the enterprices have a hidden clause.

2019-09-17 19:04:19 UTC  

They can call in the military for the protection of their rights.

2019-09-17 19:04:29 UTC  

So ultimately-the system is simple

2019-09-17 19:04:42 UTC  

EVERYBODY IS PITIED AGAINST EVERYBODY ELSE

2019-09-17 19:04:44 UTC  

and

2019-09-17 19:05:36 UTC  

If there is a quarrel amongst the communities they take it to the Triumvirate to be decided by either a 2 to 1 vote or by a direct referendum.

2019-09-17 19:06:07 UTC  

Quite a complicated system indeed, but nevertheless, unique!

2019-09-17 19:06:21 UTC  

No place on the current political spectrum.

2019-09-17 19:08:27 UTC  

Indeed, because the result will be dependent on the population.
Ok, thats nice, guess i wouldnt mind this kind of system in a city state...
_yes i read all of it_
However i see a load of problems with this on a larger scale...

2019-09-17 19:09:27 UTC  

However, what about making every nation a confederation of city states run by such organizations on a local scale.

2019-09-17 19:09:51 UTC  

I think something like a modern reincarnation of the Greek -polis models.

2019-09-17 19:10:03 UTC  

Have you read the history of the ancient Greek?

2019-09-17 19:10:50 UTC  

I mean I think a triumvirate can handle a million people or so on an enclosed territory.

2019-09-17 19:11:11 UTC  

That's basically a modern mega polis.

2019-09-17 19:11:45 UTC  

Then, the mega polices combine into a nation, and the nations can combine into an even larger scale organizations.

2019-09-17 19:12:36 UTC  

Than each of these organizations can elect representatives for Truimvirates on their own and thus the system can be scaled up, even to a world level.

2019-09-17 19:13:26 UTC  

It would be a triumvirates of triumvirates then, each controlling their respective regions and the economy, the military or the judiciary of the said land.

2019-09-17 19:13:31 UTC  

As I told you,

2019-09-17 19:13:56 UTC  

There is no system like this proposed ANYWHERE as far as I can see it.

2019-09-17 19:14:13 UTC  

This is why I say it doesn't fit into any political models.

2019-09-17 19:14:18 UTC  

Am I right?

2019-09-17 19:20:00 UTC  

Because it isnt really ideoligical in nature, but rather a form of government. It would be a big blob on the ideological spectrum, touching all but the outer reaches of the spectrum

2019-09-17 19:20:48 UTC  

This is why I'm telling you there is still no spectrum conceived where I can fit in.

2019-09-17 19:20:55 UTC  

Am I right?

2019-09-17 19:23:09 UTC  

Well that depends on what sort of things you would vote for within your form of government.

2019-09-17 19:25:49 UTC  

If you did not vote within this government of yours, that would make you apolitical, aka defined by the current status, mostly represented by the dead centre spot in the compass

2019-09-17 19:27:05 UTC  

If you vote for strong borders that would put you further up the statist axis...

2019-09-17 19:28:07 UTC  

If you vote for more social safety nets that would make you more economically socialist.

2019-09-17 19:31:14 UTC  

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From what i can tell by this conversation alone, you have yet to think over what you would actually do once you have your preferred structure of governance.
That is what would place you as an individual on the political compass.