Message from @Fuksias

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2019-09-17 19:04:19 UTC  

They can call in the military for the protection of their rights.

2019-09-17 19:04:29 UTC  

So ultimately-the system is simple

2019-09-17 19:04:42 UTC  

EVERYBODY IS PITIED AGAINST EVERYBODY ELSE

2019-09-17 19:04:44 UTC  

and

2019-09-17 19:05:36 UTC  

If there is a quarrel amongst the communities they take it to the Triumvirate to be decided by either a 2 to 1 vote or by a direct referendum.

2019-09-17 19:06:07 UTC  

Quite a complicated system indeed, but nevertheless, unique!

2019-09-17 19:06:21 UTC  

No place on the current political spectrum.

2019-09-17 19:08:27 UTC  

Indeed, because the result will be dependent on the population.
Ok, thats nice, guess i wouldnt mind this kind of system in a city state...
_yes i read all of it_
However i see a load of problems with this on a larger scale...

2019-09-17 19:09:27 UTC  

However, what about making every nation a confederation of city states run by such organizations on a local scale.

2019-09-17 19:09:51 UTC  

I think something like a modern reincarnation of the Greek -polis models.

2019-09-17 19:10:03 UTC  

Have you read the history of the ancient Greek?

2019-09-17 19:10:50 UTC  

I mean I think a triumvirate can handle a million people or so on an enclosed territory.

2019-09-17 19:11:11 UTC  

That's basically a modern mega polis.

2019-09-17 19:11:45 UTC  

Then, the mega polices combine into a nation, and the nations can combine into an even larger scale organizations.

2019-09-17 19:12:36 UTC  

Than each of these organizations can elect representatives for Truimvirates on their own and thus the system can be scaled up, even to a world level.

2019-09-17 19:13:26 UTC  

It would be a triumvirates of triumvirates then, each controlling their respective regions and the economy, the military or the judiciary of the said land.

2019-09-17 19:13:31 UTC  

As I told you,

2019-09-17 19:13:56 UTC  

There is no system like this proposed ANYWHERE as far as I can see it.

2019-09-17 19:14:13 UTC  

This is why I say it doesn't fit into any political models.

2019-09-17 19:14:18 UTC  

Am I right?

2019-09-17 19:20:00 UTC  

Because it isnt really ideoligical in nature, but rather a form of government. It would be a big blob on the ideological spectrum, touching all but the outer reaches of the spectrum

2019-09-17 19:20:48 UTC  

This is why I'm telling you there is still no spectrum conceived where I can fit in.

2019-09-17 19:20:55 UTC  

Am I right?

2019-09-17 19:23:09 UTC  

Well that depends on what sort of things you would vote for within your form of government.

2019-09-17 19:25:49 UTC  

If you did not vote within this government of yours, that would make you apolitical, aka defined by the current status, mostly represented by the dead centre spot in the compass

2019-09-17 19:27:05 UTC  

If you vote for strong borders that would put you further up the statist axis...

2019-09-17 19:28:07 UTC  

If you vote for more social safety nets that would make you more economically socialist.

2019-09-17 19:31:14 UTC  

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From what i can tell by this conversation alone, you have yet to think over what you would actually do once you have your preferred structure of governance.
That is what would place you as an individual on the political compass.

2019-09-17 19:31:52 UTC  

That's the thing @Fuksias it depends on CIRCUMSTANCES!

2019-09-17 19:32:06 UTC  

I do not represent a universal left or right.

2019-09-17 19:32:38 UTC  

I am no socialist, neither am I capitalist or a fervour nationalist, not in the sense you know.

2019-09-17 19:33:09 UTC  

I think this ultimately best political configuration for any people and anytime ultimately CHANGES constantly.

2019-09-17 19:33:15 UTC  

Can you understand me?

2019-09-17 19:34:06 UTC  

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Another thing to humor your mind with would be trying to overthrow your own government. _make yourself an effective monarch within the system by _any_ means.

2019-09-17 19:34:10 UTC  

In some times and for some circumstances the political right tradition and strong government is better.

2019-09-17 19:34:29 UTC  

In others-it is the left, the equality amongst the people and inclusiveness.

2019-09-17 19:34:56 UTC  

Compasses have to be thought of as baselines. You get absolutely nowhere if you think of them as relativistic

2019-09-17 19:35:04 UTC  

There is no constant best and there is no constant worse.

2019-09-17 19:35:37 UTC  

Ofc not every situation needs the same response

2019-09-17 19:35:44 UTC  

The system is designed so that it can encompass this change no matter whether it is to the left, or to the right.

2019-09-17 19:36:19 UTC  

And there is a safeguard against oligarchies and monarchies in the system.