Me for one

its a utopia?

Utopia is another word for dystopia

War is peace, freedom is slavery, utopia is dystopia😂 <:Communist:462285823824494592>

People are selfish, and if you give them money to be even more selfish, they will be

I look at UBI as a pragmatic replacement for our absurdly complex and abusable tax/welfare system

You NEVER give free money to people, you ALWAYS demand something back in return

Uh huh

a absolute hell would be to live in a Utopia

Why don't we just abolish the state and get rid of all taxes?

Taxation is theft yeet

I wish, but that would upset the powers that be

So I accept the status quo

As long as it works halfway decent

called it, Agonizes 😉

What "called it", it's not a secret

I've been arguing that taxes are theft from day 1

Everyone here who knows me knows this about me

Im not going to get into that hornets nest again😂

I don't know you from Jack. But with the best will in the world, you're wrong

~~lets go for full ubi, but _it also means you can legaly buy people on ubi_~~

yes

legalize debt slavery

free the markets

Like I said, I accept the status quo

I'm not a delusional AnCap, I just like the ideology

^my opinion on Anarcho- communism

People who ask for UBI are straight up communists

The legitimate role of the state is to protect its citizenry from outside threats, through means of a system of objective laws and judiciary, to be the arbiter of last resort for it's citizens arguments, and to provide services as dictated by a voting majority

Taxation is a means of paying for it

Yes yes bla bla spare me that, I know the government has its function, that's not the issue

reee muh social contract😜

If government has a function then it has to be paid for

That's why I'm saying I accept the status quo

is welfare a legitimate function of government though? thats debatable

it falls into the third argument of that, agonizes

i mean, welfare states have only existed for like, 50 years

You don't need to convince me the taxes, as things are right now, aren't gonna go away

I'm not gonna try to abolish taxes, I know it won't happen

that's not what i'm trying to convince you of

only two things are certain in life: Death, and taxes