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My mom lives out at Carolina beach, I was thinking about hitting UNCW at some point.
UNCW is a decent school. The beaches and girls are incredible
I just got my tickets to go to Texas, please make it worth it lads, I'm giving up a lot for this.
@thomas Ryan#2762 6pm central, on a voice channel, or something, or irl for you guys?
I really wish i could be in Austin with you guys. Im just a real Po' boy right now.
I'm taking a train to Florida then carpooling.
Let me know if you need lodging
Appreciate it brother, Halfdan says he already has it figured out.
I think y'all are staying with Eric
I'm traveling tomorrow, but will try to be available for meeting
Just realized that PragerU said that America was built by Whites "according to" us. Literally no different than the ADL saying the exact same thing, with slight changes in wording. If your supreme *principled conservatism* cannot be distinguished from the Jewish Defamation League which labels you evil on the basis of existing, then you *might* be facing a bit of a problem.
Nope, the 13 stars is to represent the 13 crushed almonds I sprinkled into my oatmeal while making the logo. *Geez, lady.*
Alright, done interacting with this lady. Need some activism posts tomorrow to flush the stuff down the timeline.
... Lol. The frustration is real though
I feel it every moment coursing through my veins.
start my new job tomorow goys wish me luck
@Smiter-IL Relax my man. You got plans moving forward, we all do. The time for emotion is when you don't have any plans and need to improvise. Steady pressure and progress will win the fight.
Its cold frustration... Im cool headed, just frustrated at the state of our world.
Our ancestors had bad harvest and hunts and watch children die in infancy.
Any time you get frustrated or black pilled remember what they went through and be grateful
True, I am very grateful, for that which I have. Family, friends, lover, not being shot at yet.
Didn't watch the whole thing. But isn't it funny how ppl on all sides have this deep intellectual understanding of Marxism, but when it comes to white identity stuff, they are so riddled with dunning-kruger its laughable.
@Alfred NC Glad to have you aboard. Pumped you can make it out.
We got any guys in Shelbyville? Just saw one of our masks
The WLM rally in Shelbyville TN
Whomst that goy
Its all fucked off has to be Va
This image file you sent is all F'ed up.
We have friends there but no members, we were invited though.
Those guys are with Tradworker
Idk how they got the mask
I've seen two of the shields I built there too
Not really sure what's going on, they seem to have walked a bit and then stood still in the street, can't see what's ahead of them.
Wildlands almost made me think they were fashed up
They were stopped by tsa at a security checkpoint. Been there for an hour.
Trying to stall them, I think
Now they're at a second checkpoint and their permit time is half gone.
On a flight to dfw. 95% or more of the passengers are degenerate and morbidly obese spics or niggers. Depressing..
DFW guys are getting together tonight for some food/posters around 8 if you're available.
Who's at the WLM demonstrations?
We didn't send anyone
They just look like average people you'd see at the gun show
Not only that, but rigorous standards for self improvement physically. Also, they aim more towards the older 1.0 demographic, whereas we're looking for younger guys who tend to be more fit, presentable and mindful of appearences.
Speaking of which, we're going to do another book club soon.
An actual thing where folks get together and discuss a book/essay they're reading.
The point is less about denigrating those folks, more about appealing to a broader spectrum
Define a broader spectrum.
And there's nothing wrong with those people as themselves, but they aren't representing themselves today, they're representing the movement whether they want to or not, they're representing a vision of the future that people should be willing to sacrifice a lot for, and they aren't all doing it justice in my opinion.
We'll have to do our own then eventually
Our own public demonstrations?
We're doing on in Nov, and will likely see a surge of new members afterwards which we will use to springboard into plannning something after that.
Right want to talk to you about that in person tonight
Looking forward to it
I think this article draws a lot of wrong conclusions. Stating that we are closer to Weimar now than the colonial, pre-industrial, agrarian, mercantilistic society that existed in America several hundred years ago is no big surprise. Modern industrial societies have more in common with each other, even if in different states and nations, than they do with even their own previous pre-industrial, pre-enlightenment counterparts.
Also the argument that the British king did not seek to ethnically replace Americans, therefore the same principle of a State which has become exeedingly foreign, and does not account for or protect the nation of peoples is gone entirely is not really a good way to view things. The colonists of America shared ethnic lineage with Brits, but they had quickly grown a new culture and identity, people can be ethnically the same and still have disagreements worth fighting over.
Also America cannot, as a whole, as an implementation of a new nationa spirit, look to the National Socialist uprising in Germany because *it is not our history, it was not our uprising*.
Sure, you can look at tactics as to the political maneuvering and the initiatives employed to sieze power, but those are tactics and/or strategy, not justifications.
So essentially, take the National Socialist structure, remove its German content, and fill it with American history, and nationalistic content instead?
And then, we have American Fascism?
Fascism existed as a philosophy outside of Germany and National Socialism, we didn't just gut NatSoc and slap a new coat of paint over it. Fascism was not invented in the same way Communism was. Fascism is the human interpretation of natural law, and a society that lives in harmony with it. Mussolini or Hitler did not invent Fascism just as Benjamin Franklin did not invent electricity. Fascism has existed in some form or another as long as humanity has.
The basis of Fascism is not bound to any time period, or any nation or culture or people, it applies to everything that falls under the laws of nature. Now, what we do is interpret those laws, and put them through the lens of philisophy to reach policy. We know that nature dictates that certain structures of family are better than others, and then we (eventually) implement policy to reaffirm that, as far as laws from the State.
The core of Fascism has nothing to do with Germany or any other nation, our vision of American Fascism comes from nature, through the lens of our history and culture, and then into shaping policy.
In other news, promote that post friendos ^
Speaking of postering
@everyone Welcome our newest UT member, @The Hooknose- UT
He just threw up some posters in Salt Lake City
Thanks great to be here
@Thomas Ryan The main point of the article is to point out that events in the US are on par with Weimar, Germany -- which you agree with. We're facing the same ethnic enemy and their politics as did Hitler. Basically, the author is pointing out the same conclusion I've reached, but I've worded it as, “The history of WWII is repeating itself,” but I then go on to suppose that this is occurring because history has been suppressed via subversion, so the moral theories that we should’ve learned have been lost.
More so, this story has played out multiple times that it has become an archetypical story in human mythos; the main theme being: The traditions held by the fathers are lost/forgotten; the hero of the story goes on an adventure into the unknown and rediscovers them thereby saving the father from death and thus restoring order to the world they know.
In the modern case, vindicating Hitler is an iteration of that theme for many people because he embodied many of the virtues of a benevolent father. However the historic narrative in today’s media has depicted Hitler as the satan of our times.
A large part of what we face on the alt-right is correcting this untruth. Was Hitler an enemy of America? Was Hitler an enemy of the Brits? Was Hitler an enemy of Europe?
To correct this historic record is to save a father figure in the collective history of white people -- which is shorthand for European descendants. America is part of that history rather than isolated from it -- i.e. America is part of that pan-European identity. And, unless I’m mistaken, this is a vision Hitler shared. He wanted us all united against a common, foreign enemy. I don’t think Hitler wanted these nations to surrender their sovereignty, otherwise he would’ve taken Britain instead of trying to negotiate with them.
@Thomas Ryan , got it. I just read about a quarter of The Doctrine of Fascism. I couldnt open that doc you sent me on my phone, but im going to download it onto my computer when i get the chance.
Ill probably chip away at it over the weekend. Im about to hit the weights right now though.
Hitler was far from a pan-Europeanist and I would actually discourage Europeans (which we are not) to support pan-Europeanism in Europe. I don't think a main goal of our movement, the Alt-Right being a part of the overall movement, but not a part of it that we are in, is restoring the image of Hitler. It's not so integral in the history of America that it's our raison d'etre. The true history that we need to alter the view of, is our history. Remember, we aren't Europeans, we're Americans, so our history is being used more importantly as a weapon against us, or a distorted version of it is.
Also, going into the muddled ocean of facts and subjects of WWII, Hitler actively had plans to invade and occupy Britain. So it's not all as benevolent as it seems at first glance.
Having plans could be a contingency. Like I'm sure we have plans to invade every country on this planet, but we're not acting on 'em.
As far as pan-Europeanism goes, I see alliances forming between the various alt-right groups in Europe and North America.
Y'see, getting into facts about battle strategies and the *true intentions* of various WWII figureheads is a bottomless pit of speculation.
Also, the fact that many Americans think of themselves as Europeans rather than Americans, as members of their race first and nation second, somehow being just as similar to people they share no language, culture, or geographic standing to as opposed to the ones they do, is a result of our history being demonized. Europeans do not call themselves White, or even European so much as they call themselves German, British, Spanish, and so on. The wishy-washy identitaran/alt-right nationalism without the concept of a nation is a result of us in America not being able to connect with our history.
And another thing, the Alt Right only really exists in the U.S., Identitarianism seems to be something the Alt Right is branching into to closer connect to groups like GenID, but the Alt Right is an American movement, and we aren't part of it. We do not identify as part of that movement.
I'm a 1st generation American, so I'm sure that influences my perspective here.
One of Hitler's main points at the beginning of mein kampf though is the idea that Germanic blood transcends nations.
Do all Europeans have Germanic blood?
Thomas, do Jews put their nation before race?
I'm not sure I have a tally of all Jews handy, but I would say Israeli ones often do, as far as Jews outside of Israel, they don't have a nation to put first, because they do not belong to one in many cases. The whole "international" part.
I've wondered if Israel is just a front. A place for Jews to escape to should their subversion fail.
I dunno, let's make their subversion fail and then find out.
That sounds like a great experiment to me. 😄
These folks treat one fat lady standing in traffic and getting hurt because of it as though... I can't even draw a parallel. They're drawn into a frenzy by it, and NEED to find SOME WHITEY TO BLAME.
Watch out guys:
***"The dept WILL be paid."***
@Norman sdo im a little far from the coast, but im from oregon originally so I feel you
Don't bother, no good ever comes of twitter feces-flinging
They seriously have no legitimate arguments against us. It is 100% falsity. Yet, our arguments are quite truthful in regards to their nature.
In order to understand your enemy, or for that matter anyone you argue against, you need to have a sound understanding of the opposing view point. Without having read their literature, or studied their ideals, you would have to resort to false, and lowly attacks to validate yourself. Such behavior is for lower men, which they are. They do not even understand their own view point. I doubt hardly any of them even know the causes of their ideological movements.
Thus, they become the forces of a great deceiver, and their ideology worthy of annihilation.
I agree @Thomas Ryan it is much more impactful for our movement to focus on restoring American history. Learning it again without the white guilt lens. There are many leaders that are just as inspiring as Hitler but were leaders of Americans which at the time were White.
I'm reading a biography on Andrew Jackson right now, its very inspiring. The Indians were savages. Our forefathers struggled so much. My family has been in America for at least six Generations that I know on record. And all of those have been in Ohio so being an American means a lot more to me than some sort of pan-european movement.
Hitler and the Nazis are inspiring but they have their limitations because that is not, for most of us, our history or our people's struggle.
@everyone Activism general meeting in 15 mins
I might not be able to talk but ill listen in
Hitler had no intentions of war with Western Europe
We have several peace overtures from Germany during that time
That include absolute withdrawal from Western Europe with the exception of German colonies and Alsace Lorraine
We are however a colonial nation. We should be proud of our European roots, just as the Romans were proud of their Trojan roots
Rome was not Troy though
We shouldn't reject it, but it's not at the core of who we are, it's in the periphery (think I spelled that right.) Especially from a nationalist perspective.
As for Pan Europeanism, it as some merit on a Confederal basis. The EU isn't inherently bad as a concept, but the leadership is fucking terrible
Do we go to voice or meeting room
Sir Oswald Mosley knew what he was talking about
United European military/trade bloc is a good idea
Open borders is not
Germany for the Germans, France for the French, but Europe should have a me against my brother, me and my brother against our cousin situation
To stand up to powers like the United States and China, economy of scales are a necessity
That being said, it has nothing to do with us
America wouldn't be included in any pan European state
We should help our brothers overseas throw off their oppressors, but ultimately what they want is up to them
If the Catholic church uncucked itself, I would answer a call for reconquista
A reconquista of what
We lost Spain for 700 years before the first reconquista
Europe isn't conquered yet
no go zones will have to be violently retaken
It's occupied, but it's not an Ummayed situation
@Josh OH Would you recommend the biography that you are reading?
@SonderSchutz TX I know, right? If only we had posters explicitly calling out Communism with striking imagery like skulls, or big animals in violent poses.
Or looming, evil figures over a visual representation of America.
so far so good
a fast read that feels more like a narrative
Thank you. Always looking for a new good read for the kids. 👌
oh good. Jackson was a mischievous boy, so boys will love it.
So the Murfreesboro "rally" was a psyop to split their forces. Kudos go out to The League and TWP. We can learn from this.
Instead of them concentrated in one location they were forced to split their forces.
It also makes them waste resources and time
Were any communists present in force?
Matched their numbers at least
Yea they had at least a few hundred
Mostly standard shitlibs and cat lady's but there was some Antifa
Thomas, what do you think of some anti-pornography type propaganda, or something targeting the ladies?
https://therightstuff.biz/2017/10/28/intersectional-alt-right-episode-28-becoming-who-we-were/ AWW sheet niggers intersectional alt right is back!
@Smiter-IL Lady members aren't really our demographic, and porn is more a symptom of larger cultural issues we speak against, but I'll look into some new pro-morality posters. Remember, fellas, posters are just something to do until you can do banners and demos and speeches.
__***SPEAKING OF POSTERS***__
@everyone Welcome our newest FL member, @Walking Holocaust-FL
He went out with Halfdan and postered USF tonight.
Welcome @Walking Holocaust-FL , it was fun. I just got the rest of the pictures.
welcome brother hail victory
Nice work brother, welcome aboard
It was a nice run, and great to meet some Texas members
SoCal has the best goys, tbh.
So does DFW, and Houston, and Tampa, and Austin, and just about anywhere else I've met our goys in.
@Halfdan yeah, can't wait for future events. Thanks everybody for the support. Hail Victory!
I plan on giving speeches on the Frankfurt School, Interest Slavery, and Marxism to the College Republicans i start.
Show them the origins of modern "liberalism."
that glare boii
Just finished a debate with a half native / half white chick
it ended when I started discussing IQ scores, she just left.
What was the debate about?
She was young, and kept drawing on a story of some dude yelling at her as a child telling her she shouldn't exist or something
Thank you Mike Enoch for the talking points you've given me, amen
I would just bring up that she would be opposed to ethnostates out of self interest
He main argument is not wanting to be inconvienced tbh
And shes using her "status" as a Native to say that the US is actually hers, basically confirming that she also believes in ethno-nationalism some how
its only half hers she get to keep it if she gives up an arm and a leg
What do the late night folks think about this article?
I mean essentially the debate should stop at "It's a PR thing" because it's simply true, it is 100% about image. Why else are we doing these gatherings and actions but to appear in a good light to our people, to let them know what we are doing is wholesome and good for us, not just some rednecks out in the woods burning crosses talking about their wives losing their job at walmart.
If we can’t stop some doofus parading around with a swastika, then it’s clearly not a vote of confidence in our ability to run a future state, ethno of otherwise.
I have no personal issue with those images, but it's just giving fuel to the fire that the enemy is stoking for us. The best recruitment tool is and will always be the rabid hate and appitite of destruction that comes from the Commies / Marxists, let them flip out at posters and gatherings that simply say we have a right to exist, because it shows their nature.
Enoch talked about this when some TRS fans/enemies postered a neighborhood with swastikas linking to their site, it's not the way to get people thinking
I also think the phalanx analogy is correct
most peolpe dont think the current system is working we need to convince them to take the risk by going with us
and that is undermined if we can't even do proper PR
its really not that hard to get people to save the larping for privet events
@Walking Holocaust-FL Goddamn look at all these new faces. Welcome aboard, bro.
@Halfdan @Goodest_Boy I agree with those points and the ones in the article. No matter what your "optics" are, it should be cohesive no matter what. If y'all were wondering why I sometimes get nitpicky when people go and print out their own designs for stuff without running it by me, it's kind of like a hoplite bringing a homemade shield instead of one from the armory, and assuming that because he did the extra work without being asked it must be good.
When we get a good deal more resources, we'll really flesh out and standardize dress and public appearence, and when we flesh out local networks, we'll start to enforce physical fitness standards as well. When it comes to being in public, in uniform, you cease to be an individual, and cease to be you, you become a represenative of a vision. You are a flesh and blood vessel for an idea. A corporeal window into a future that Americans need to see and be willing to risk all for.
😡 😡 😡 😡
If we had guys in VA there'd be a 8 foot tall portrait of Washington hanging on their front door by tomorrow
So I had an idea that I wanted to run buy you.
What if we put posters on democrat politicians homes.
Like my state has that faggot that blocked the travel ban.
We could slip a couple posters in his mail box
As far as homes, that's iffy legally, especially considering you're pissing off a corrupt politician. Maybe telephone poles/transformer boxes in the neighborhood is better.
Also think it's illegal to put mail in mailboxes. Might be wrong.
Idk we could mail it to them with no return adress
I've had guys put them up around the neighborhood on public property and it works just fine, also informs their neighbors.
Do a walk-through of the place this supposed person lives and see what looks good. Take some pics. We can take it from there.
Fair enough. I'll look into it after the banner.
Yeah, I have gotten in trouble for distributing fliers for a State Rep I used to work for by the postal people saying it was illegal for me to stick fliers on the flag of people's mailboxes.
I'll do whatevers not illegal I just know that too many politicians are too dumb to resist virtue signaling
At least they are here
That's the right idea. Let's get that banner out of the way, and then see what politicians are close. Ideally we'd want one of them to do something specific and be in the news already.
@here Thoughts? Do the portraits look alright? Quotes good?
The franklin one might backfire as he's speaking of white immigrants
He was speaking of Germans, I believe, who he didn't think were able to assimilate properly enough. That makes sense to me. The principle is what matters there.
Just saying that the argument they would make would be that the germans did assimiliate, therefore somalis and hindus and pakis can too,