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and styx doesnt lol
they both do 4 videos a day
i don't watch him, i should look at his vids
yikes
he's great. he's the king of predictions
that's way too many for me but i kinda understand why
yeah styx is good
nearly everything he says comes true at some point
if they are focused on news they kinda need that amount of output
not all his videos are news though. his 'job' is an occultic writer
its just that he's so damn good at political predictions that that part of his channel has become the most popular
i think he's what, 90% success rate with predictions or something?
i dont watch his occult stufff, do you?
i dont either, i just find it funny that his literal 'job' is occultic stuff, but what he's known for is politics
yeah
he is just really articulate and gets to the point
hell, he's weighed in on the 'witch hunt' controvery. he laughs at the morons not practicing real witchcraft trying to curse trump
haha
anyway
that's about all
peace out
bai
i'm not leaving, that's just what styx says at the end of every video
ah
Still working on that test?
yep
this one is actually making me think about the questions
i'm currently finding myself back to center
after a short trip in the economic right territory
they really shouldn't display your compass on the go
Yeah, I agree on that
it's kind of interesting seeing the way it moves with your answers, but i agree, it has the potential sway someones answers
since it keeps track of your answers they could show how the compass moved according to your answers
after the fact? like a gif or something?
Not that it's imporant, the questions could be random for all I care
kinda
i'm a libtard, apparently
okay
basically a leftist
but whatever
We need to bring back firing lines.
^ This guy knows how to dictator
@Fitzydog still working on that compass
you can be the first one to get "swiss cheesed" then
We cannot execute people because Europe doesnt want to sell us lethal drugs anymore.
So taxpayers pay tons of money to keep a guy that is going to die, alive for decades.
A bullet to the head is not painful. There is not enough time for it to be painful.
ah you mean as a method of executing criminals
in that case i'm kinda aboard but then not
And when six bullets hit that head, you didn't just half kill them and botch it.
might want to make sure they're actually guilty first
Bullets are far more humane I think. And they are sentenced to death after lengthy trials.
There are also multiple appeals
Leftist
Negative culture. <:oof:494878589406150657>
@Fitzydog less statist than you <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>
@galesteppes @Fitzydog what test is this?
@galesteppes I'm less statist.
You're more degenerate
@Fitzydog right to bear arms is the cultural axis, faggot
How am I the faggot? Damn furry...
Says the one in a blue state <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>
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oh shit sorry
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who sells pizzas that big??
Specialty pizza shops, and the places you can get those "New York" slices
I just saw a pepperoni pizza with corn on it, wtf?
i've never even heard of corn on pizza
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Iโve had tortellini on pizza and thatโs delicious, but I wouldnโt try corn
Pasta on pizza seems alright in a weird way
Look, Iโm an ultra-Italian
Like, it doesn't seem sacrilege lol
Not even joking, itโs the best pizza Iโve ever had
But it wasnโt just the tortellini. The sauce was amazing and everything was done right.
You fucks are making me hungry
OTTO Pizza at Harvard Square in Cambridge, MA. Go there and do yourself a favor if youโre ever in the area.
I probably won't ever be, but alright lol
Doesn't matter, had pizza
Iโm somehow more alright with that than corn on pizza
That looks somewhat decent, actually. Iโd try it.
Three-cheese tortellini pizza. Damn it, now Iโm hungry and itโs midnight. I blame you guys. XD
nigger
nah just anti-totalitarian in general
Hey, China's been pushing some units they mount between factory smokestacks, capture all that smog to make industrial diamonds
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So anyone guess why Faith Goldy is trying to insinuate now that JBP is a crypto-commie?
Can we boycott China
no u
Damn, you could do a video that deconstructs the real meaning of every point Blair makes... and it wouldn't be happy viewing...
https://twitter.com/InstituteGC/status/1079685864077381632
Guess I'll put it here too, PMd Sargon and Tim about it: Theres a guy under arrest in Venezuela, for accused "spying". He is an investigative journalist critical towards mass- and illegal immigration to Europe and that is why he is most probably ignored by german authorities, left to rot in Venezuela :(. Afaik he is being under arrest for several months already and even denied medication.
His YT Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBwzo_QHMYp5F2LHVez0dgg
Called "Billy Six" on Youtube
facing 28 years in prison... ๐ฆ
supposedly suffering of Dengue Fever denied medication...
You can check out his last report from Venezuela, its even english subbed!
Well fuck
And who says oppressor narratives don't lead to murder
Centrist gang
@Sardoniรคc Sargon is not on this server
ah ok, so how can this info get to him?
He has his own discord
ah
He made a video about it
I know, thats how I ended up here ๐
but somehow I cannot join the other server
Should be in <#380751840750469125>
Ok
Ask in general
thank you very much
but wont hurt if you guys know about this, too!
seems quite urgent :/ dude might die
Also yes, the partnered discord invite links need updating
meanwhile, in Church of England...
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/12/31/church-england-welcome-boat-migrants/
(That's the same Church of England that has permanent seats in British Parliament's House of Lords.)
thanks for the newsflash jezza - we all thought everything was going smooth as silk
Nuffin' gets past Comrade Corbyn
Rival nations can cooperate? Amazing
@Jabba the Christian Church is always pro charity and helping others, it's not that surprising. Even the Catholic Church in Spain helps out with the refugees.
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intervention by who
fucking liberals
>controlled congress
By a handful of votes not enough to win a vote on straight party line, though it never would be.
> control supreme court
That was only gained recently with kavanaugh, and scotus doesnt approve/disapprove funding.
she did get elected more or less by showing up to a race where no one else did bother to show up
I got libertarian capitalist on spekr. Me so right wing
I got almost exactly 50, -50 (right wing libertarian)
Fucking Neo-Cons couldn't use their advantage to get shit done for 2 years, but they *just happen* to want to give it a swing right before they lose their majority
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they never wanted anything to change.
as the status quo was perfect for them as it did line there pockets with money, what the people wanted was unimportant
Can we yeet the leftist diaspora jews please
@Fitzydog then let's start the new year with no fed <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>
Oy vey! ๐คซ
Before I begin, I would like to say that I am not a collectivist. I have a very individualist ideology, in that I think a society which forces collectivization necessarily needs everyone to be on the same page. That is why there is often a tribal group dynamic in left wing organizations which is against free speech, and does not allow free, individualistic thought.
Now, that said, some of the basic problems of capitalism would be inequality, environmental destruction, and the inherent unsustainability of a system which must always expand for it to exist. That is aside from the inherently less enjoyable quality of the work place.
Inequality is present under capitalist systems where there is great wealth gathered at the top, while tens of thousands of people die because they don't have health care, millions are under student loan debt, and the first world exists because of the exploitation of the third world. To expound on the third world argument; the first world consumes many resources, so much so that it would require many planets for the third world to operate on the level of the third world. Yet, instead of sharing the wealth of these first world countries with the world, companies ship jobs over seas so they can pay lower wages.
This takes us to the problem of wages, and why the tendency of the rate of profit to fall will necessarily lead to the end of capitalism. In a world with finite resources, a system which must expand indefinitely, cannot grow indefinitely. Especially when faced with peak oil reserves, and global warming which threatens aggriculture, water supplies, and coastal areas. Capitalism, when it cannot grow anymore, will collapse, and we will need to adopt a sustainable system.
Capitalism's toll on the environment - whether it is because of solely capitalism, or industrialization in general - has been massive. Capitalism requires growth, and it, as well as heavily industrial communism are unsustainable. 60% of species on the planet have gone extinct, there is now global warming which threatens to destroy the planet if we do not eliminate greenhouse gas emissions in 12 years. That is because of the greenhouse effect, in which gasses build up in the atmosphere and cause the planet to retain heat. If the planet reaches a critical temperature, it could enter the runaway greenhouse effect, which is what wiped out venus's oceans.
Now, I see the problem with collectivization. It leads to a society which is Orwellian, and...
at least you're not a centrist anymore @meratrix
Okay so
You argue that capitalism must expand
@โฟ Mittens โฟ You know that there are free market opportunities to help the environment?
I disagree.
i dont even know where to start with that Mittens
i'm pretty damn sure that guy is just a copypasting asswipe, fitzy
Cap is about supply and demand
I just wrote it on the spot, nyuu
saw him do that a few times already
ah okay then
There are resources that we either reuse, or cannot deplete.
Mittens actually writes this
Look, the free market is cleaning up the Pacific garbage patch
And the ideal capitalist system would be 100% efficient, reusing the resources it spends.
Are govts doing that?
Mittens is not arguing about govt right now, Fitz. Just economics.
Ahh, okay. But still
1 inequality is in all systems. Communism and socialism create far more than capitalism. And they prevent movement which capitalism allows.
Environment is a touchy one. Species have been going extinct for eons. And it will come back wit other ones. Also co2 is a minor polutant compared to even water vapor.
inequality is present in every system. even "communist" systems had massive inequalities, much moreso than capitalism at any point.
the third world has had lots of economic growth in the past few decades due to capitalism, which has brought so many people out of poverty.
in regards to wages, there are new occupations being created every day. first starting out as extremely well paying but with low number of people who can do a job, but over time was more people join the occupation, their wages fall due to supply and demand. think of airline pilots. they were once highly respected and very well paid. now they are glorified bus drivers.
Regarding the environment, I agree that the climate changes, however I disagree with the amount of human involvement. we just don't know how much is the fault of humans at this point, and as more and more evidence becomes available, its starting to look more like a catastrophic changes, rather than gradual changes (IMO of course). 99% of all species that have ever existed have gone extinct, so I think it would be foolish to think of the world and its ecology as unchanging. plus, if you are really concerned about the environment, you should be looking at china... a "communist" (or at the very least, socialist) country.
I'm addressing the environmental aspect
Inequality isnt inherently bad. The lack of ability of movement up and down is
People don't like to live in a dirty world. What makes you think there isn't a market for cleaning it?
Yes. People are not equal, naturally.
There is. Recycling is a huge market tbh
plus, theres also the fact that as people become more wealthy, they start worrying more and more about the environment. this would suggest that we should be encouraging capitalism to bring the entire world up to continue making people to become aware of the environment.
There is (probably) a place for everyone, no matter how useless, in a capitalistic society, however.
Which is how I am holding out hope!
people taking the initiative to clean horse shit from the streets is a great example @Fitzydog
and they made money from it
People arepaid for services if they are valued, yes
and cleanliness is valued
Nobody want to live in polution. If you can fix it for a fee, most would want to pay that fee. Some will not but enough will.
The issue is gov is inefficient
although there are places where the garbage piles up like in India, but i dont know enough about their situation to understand why
And tend to have political biases ergo paris accord which would effectively change nothing
But if there's economic growth in the third world, it cannot reach the level of the first world. Even mainstream centrist sources like CNN report this, but de-growth theorists report the same thing.
Environmental climate change has a 99% certainty rate among scientists that it is caused by industrialization.
Communism is a bad system, probably much, much worse than capitalism. However, a sustainable system, one based on worker co-ops, could be much better. I would highly recommend reading Bertrand Russell's Proposed Roads to Freedom. The most beautiful thing about a worker commune, de-growth society, which is based on community co-operation, instead of wage labor and profit, would be that much less work would be required. If you had a society, in which production was meant to sustain, not simply to grow, you wouldn't have so many people with unnecessary jobs, simply producing to earn the right to live.
This could lead to an explosion in creativity, intellectual pursuites, and Einstein on every corner, as they say. The beautiful part about it is, we may not have an option to to turn towards this goal, and achieve it. There are people who can explain why this society, as opposed to the beurocratic state run socialist societies, would lead to a much higher quality of existence, likely much better than I can.
First, disregard CNN
I regard claims on the validity of their arguments, not their sources.
I have yet to see evidence that this claim is untrue.
Syndicalism is just another flavor of communism/socialism. Its just who holds the power
Disregarding sources simply out of political bias is the method of the communist who defends North Korea.
They make horrible arguments
The latest one, gamer culture is a Russian invention, etc.
They are nuts
Also syndicalism, communism and socialism has no use for the arts or innovation. As the arguement goes something like how many farmers will it take to cure cancer. Or some such
I can argue aga8nst that Floki
Cnn is a horrid source because THEY disregard sources due to bias
You need to have biologists and doctors to keep the workforce healthy, and ensure production of food. You cannot avoid that.
there will always be poor countries. that is a feature of any system. even in the US, there are poor people. we can develop these countries, and get them close to our level, and they may even exceed our standard of living. in 1000 years, the Congo could be the most developed nation on earth if they work hard enough.
in regards to the environment again, I do believe that there is a factor it plays in environmental change, however it is not the only factor. climate change and the environment is a very complex issue with many variables in addition to industries. yes, humans do play a role, but how big of a role? how much of a role does the sun play? or volcanoes? or chickens? there are oodles of things that we have to account for to determine what is changing our world.
Also, Ender, I would disagree that people are not naturally equal, given the is/ought divide of Hume. We can say that reason is a slave to the passions. What one prefers, is automatically separate from what something is, simply because that is how it exists. If we are to say that the universe will experience heat death in a few trillion years due to entropy, this is true regardless of if we want it to be true. In the same way, a person's intelligence, or their condition, is only preferable relevant to an individual's emotional preference. That is why I always say that IQ is a meaningless measure of worth, because how a person acts could be preferable, or not preferable.
And no that 99% is a false idea based on the false claim of 80% scientists agree with manmade climate change, the report that lumped near all climate change reports together
If one is to follow a truly objective analysis of human beings, using the logic of Hume, one cannot say that any person is inherently, objectively more valuable than another.
I've written a paper on this recently.
No no 2 people are inherently equal
You have not refuted Hume.
You cannot just state a claim
Okay, preferrable or not preferrable. You would prefer to have the man who has a biology degree making kedication rather than a sociologist. They are not equal in that regard, but both have worth as human beings.
Intelligence caps, behaviour inclinations, physical charactoristics, ect.
Preference is only relative to the individual. There is no inherent, objective morality in nature.
Only way for 2 humans to naturally equal is for us to be cyborgs built exactly the same
You have not refuted Hume.
His basis is that 2 people are born exactly the same.
Genetics alone refutes hume
I could be a realist and argue that humans are amongst the cheapest resources at our disposal.
plus, what's the difference between a coop and a corporation? companies are in direct competition with one another, so they have to specialise their employees to make sure they are the best they could be at their job to ensure their company succeeds. you wouldn't want a burger flipper to do your accounting, which is why there is a division of labour. if you don't have the most efficient process, then you will end up with 100$ sandwiches and water will become scarce as you don't have enough competent people doing their jobs. without growth, humans WILL regress, unless it is the number of people that you have to start with... we will find out what happens in that case when we hit the growth limit in a few decades of 9 billion people.
Nature is objective in this as survival at its base is genetic.
How can you say that worth is not relative to individual preference?
You really need to read about Hume, he is an enlightenment philosopher.
Worth in survival is not individual preference
If I need a service, I only want the best person providing that service.
I would recommend reading "an enquiry concerning human understanding" by Hume.
A person born with the evolutionary instinct that fire is bad. Naturally has more worth in nature than one born without
In nature worth is measured by survivability
Goblin, you're not refuting my arguments, you're just re-stating your point in different ways.
You need to address what I said.
I just did
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