Autism Spectrum which can tell you alot about a person

Fuck offffff

<:think_madpepe:378717098630971395> low iq interventions

Don't be mittens

You need to have an iq of at least 140

@Deleted User found your ex

@✿ Mittens ✿

Which means I'm 2 points too low <:GWcfcWhenlifegetsatyou:357907184547528706>

Shiet

>Transnigger

By thay logic I'd need 2 years to understand rick and morty

like male is your sex and gay is your identity

ded

So you basically still get to keep your supposed "white privilege" while also enjoing your new victim card

It's genius

Milo's identity is GAY

he's so gay

MILO is shit*

why are you such angry sis white males?

Milo in front of 6000 people: "Hi everyone do you like my Jacket?"

This is war.

if you are a hermaphrodite, what gender are you?

uh

uhhh

gay?

Traps are gay

Herms aren't

true hermaphrodites cannot exist in the human species.

It's a mutation, an outlier

Petition the government to provide more dickgirls for public enjoyment

Today!

I dunno let's consult the chart.

Besides, hermaphrodite usually lean heavier top one side than the other and usually just go with that

so they can choose their gender right?

To be truly hermaphroditic, it requires that both sets of reproductive organs function, this is impossible in humans, if you have both do to mutation than you are either infertile or barely fertile.

They have a gender it's called dickgirl

you want to make a third bathroom for them then?

Male or female, but that's the choices you get

*thirst*

ya

@Deleted User Go with whatever chromosome you have, cause that will be the mentality you have.

lol

so you say they are a third gender?

No

They still got an XX or an XY.

just an extra from mutation

OK, how about kids that feel like a different gender trapped in the wrong body?

that all it does is make them infertile.

Transition when you hit 18

until then, nadda

There is only male and female

so you see trans gender is their gender

no

u

and their sex is something different

no

You can choose to live as one of the other, but they still doesn't change your biology

gender is an idea made up by John Money in an attempt to force a young boy to become a girl in a failed experiment.

serious question sort of related to what @Deleted User is doing. If an male born person whose doing the trans shit requested (not demanded) to be called she, would you?

Both kids killed themselves

like I said it is how you identify, there are physiological differences also

nope

I don't care. Probably.

thats why i specified requested meng

If they demand it then no

are you straight?

Who gets to decide that?

@EmptyE If they actually make the effort to be that change, than I will oblige, cause they’ll look like it anyway, if their just bitching, then no.

exactly

what constitutes effort?

actually transitioning

and @M4Gunner if lying to yourself has proven psychological ebenefits, why not abide it?

@meratrix sometimes theres a high cost barrier that cant be reached for some time with that

@M4Gunner Data kind of suggests it does

You can't lie to yourself beneficially. You can only convince yourself to believe something which benefits you.

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA] same thing isnt it?

no

one you know is a lie, one you actually believe

their sanity benefits

@EmptyE I’d make them wait till age 18 anyway, at which point go to college, get a job, then pay for it.

@M4Gunner 60% of people who transition report greator life satisfactotion post, 80% report greator physical satisfaction with themselves

they have the same suicide rate

gender dysphoria and other factors cause a high suicide rate in trans

thats fair. Im honestly not coming at this from a "YOU MUST" way

For instance, you can lie to yourself that God is smiling upon you when you know you are awash in sin, and you will torment yourself. However, you can also truly believe that God wants you to be better and is on your side in redeeming yourself from your sins, and that belief will help you do so.

they aren't lying to themselves

At the end of the day it's all mental illness

so your cool with them pretending @M4Gunner but you won't play along? at all?

So?

they are being honest about things

lets say they are. Why not just refer to them as they'd prefer? You aren't a shrink, you can't change their mind

But doesn't that mean you can't be friends with them?

there is a lot of social pressure and stigma

to conform

Because you refuse to give them the common decency of referring to them as they'd prefer

it is not a mental illness

if some dude referred to me exclusively by a different name, I wouldn't be mates with them

It is literally a mental illness though

So you'd rathar exclude perfectly reasonable traps from common respect because of SJWs?

I'm the only person in here that likes traps

No one deserves respect. It is earned

Do you greet strangers with "Fuck you cunt"?

why not?

I think that if someone wants to live as the opposite gender, but realizes fully that they are not actually that gender, that is fine and I will respect them, but I maintain that to believe you are the gender which your biology determines you are not, is mental illness.

Not making that claim. Saying Common Decency has a minimal level of respect we put out in the world

Richard Nixon can be called Dick Dixon lol

That minimum level of respect to me, also suggests I should refer to people I don't dislike as they prefer to be referred to.

why do you identify as male?

where'd I say right dickhead?

I don't "identify" as a male.

I'm just conscious enough to know I am one.

why do you think you are a male?

stupid question

pedantic af

chromosomes genius

Not non-existent

dysphoria*

I made that same mistake the other day

Less than one percent.

Alright you neo nazis. What's been happening lately?

How do you know the one you are talking too isn't part of that small number?

@Hyddraigon tism

Ah, the usual then.

do you think you are a make because of your biology?

Less than one percent of the population not being one or the other does not a spectrum make.

I'm not asking you to care, I'm not asking you to

like, chane your views on it, it might be a mental illness

"do you think you are a male because of your biology"

I assume you mean

In which case, yes I do.

Your point?

@EmptyE It is a mental illness.

male
adj. Of, relating to, or designating the sex that has organs to produce spermatozoa for fertilizing ova.

I just don't see why the culture bullshit should stop me from treating a seemingly decent individual I may meet, as they'd like to be treated

yeah, I got the thing that does that stuff

@EmptyE It doesn’t but if they’re gonna bitch at me all day I won’t oblige them.

It's fine if you want to use their pronouns, although I think you doing so is ultimately harmful.

so it has nothing to do with how you feel inside, just how you physically are?

The worst thing one could do is make it illegal to do otherwise.

@meratrix and I started this by prefacing request, not demand. Not my fault you guys are bringing all your baggage along with that

Ya see Hooty, if I identified as a rich person, does that make me one because of what's "inside"?

Hooty, with all due respect...
***What kind of fucking argument is that?***
Someone can have a wang and identify as such. If you throw gender dysphoria into the mix then it gets complicated.

@MaikuPens why harmful?

Or is the world as it is?

If your gender "inside" is male or female, then fine

I wouldn't expect you to tell a schizophrenic that the voices really are speaking to them, or telling a paranoid person that the CIA really is watching them.

If your gender "inside" is a toaster then fuck off ❤

@EmptyE There’s no “baggage”, I just have read the research on the best course action for those with gender dysphoria, and a physical transition and pronouns do jack shit.

You're feeding a person's general incapability of accepting reality.

We keep feeding the troll

@MaikuPens we can draw easy lines between delusions and practical risks there. What are the practitical risks of living a life as not your biology?

so if you have a sex change, are you female then?

@meratrix so a request must be helpful to the person to be honoured?

why not? You look like one

your biology changed

we've already been over that

^

The practical risks are increases in the general feeling of unease in your own body, causing even more harmful psychological "this body isn't mine" type of psychological issues.

^

It's possible that suicides stem from this.

@EmptyE No, but if there not going to seek actual phycological help, then I will not oblige them bitching about it. And phycologists cost way fucking less than transitioning as well.

so breasts and a vagina are not female?

@MaikuPens Thats alot of moral highground your throwing at these people bro

so what you saying is...

@meratrix how do you know they ain't?

well I got news for you, the penis is a fucking vagina

nope

These are just the worst possible outcomes of feeding their gender dysphoria.

I got news for you. That's fucking wrong.

@EmptyE If they tell me. If they don’t tell me, that’s their fault.

This is what you asked me for. Don't attack me for giving you the worst outcome.

oof

got em

we are all females in the womb at first

The penis is a mutated vagina

no

yes

What did they mean by this?

until we inherit the y chromosome and get a shot of testosterone that changes the female brain pattern to the male brain pattern

both the vagina and penis grow from the same undetermined organ

thats biology

I dunno. Alot of that just genuinely sounds like trying to impose a world view on these people.

I'm not even going to give Hooty the benefit of my attention.

And I don't peddle in that

At least EE is interested in some good faith interaction.

The ovaries descend and become the testicles and the clitoris becomes a penis

Only reason im here

"The penis is a mutated vagina" is an extremely simplistic way to look at it and is ultimately wrong

There is a subjective worldview on what is the best treatment to mental difficulties

@Deleted User That organ is entirely non-functioning until the XX or XY kicks in, it is not a vagina.

Would you say that medicating and psychologically treating schizophrenia imposing out world view on them?

It’s the beginnings of what could be either a penis or vagina.

And if @meratrix is claiming the jury is completly in on how to treat gender dysphoria, well I think thats bullshit

Especially paranoid schizophrenia.

Nope

Bepis and vagene are built from the same components vaguely

it's literally the same body part and we have nipples

Well, suicide rates post-transition show no change.

Which is why gender reassignment works because they just push all the components around

@EmptyE I never fucking said that, but phycological treatment has shown to be far more effective at actually preventing suicide in those with gender dysphoria.

so what you consider not a vagina really is one

But if I told a guy at the pub I think hes schizo and should get treatment, and then stopped allowing his position to be entertained

They require psychological help.

thats imposing

@Deleted User It could not function as a vagina

Can someone rename hooty to cathy hootman?

Obviously there is no hard and fast cure for transgenderism, but encouraging it sure as shit doesn't help.

that’s how

If your friend was exhibiting signs of suicide, wouldn't you want him to seek help?

Cathoot newman?

Cathot newman

Probably. But if they refused to go I'd leave it that

They'd either become dangerous enough that I can't assiociate, they'd find their own fix, or they'd get help

@EmptyE If they won’t help themselves, then whatever results from that is their fault

Request

so everything has to have a specific functioning?

Again, Requests

Like asking a youtuber if he wants to be known by his first name or handle

I do request people with gender dysphoria get psychological help.

what happens when you lose particular organs?

@meratrix agreed. Whys it your perogative to make them feel worse about it?

are you less of a man or woman?

Because their suicide rates make it very clear that their psychological issues are causing them too much trauma.

You go to make them claim outside just in the world without appearing like a massive arrogant prick

@Deleted User The organ that grows into either the penis or vagina is a non-functioning, un-determined organ, the chromosomes cause it to grow into either the vagina or the penis. You clearly have a high school understanding of biology.

ok say it is functioning

then what

They aren't in Therapy with you, demanding to be fixed. They'd just rathar be referred to in some way because for the time being that makes being outiside easier. I don't see whats wrong with that

Personally i like to leave opinions about gender dysphoria and the like for actual professionals and think all should do the same.

Problem is that a lot of people who are not experts and have NO idea what they are talking about are injecting themselves into the issue.

say they create everything exactly

Normally, all humans have a heart that functions purely biologically. But some people have to get pace makers to make their heart work. Does this make them no longer human? No, they are simply modified.

Feeding their psychological trauma isn't going to improve their situation, clearly.

Yes we do

Its called a name

if you get a face transplant, are you a different person?

no

just modified

@EmptyE Like I said, if they’re know the descision they are making, and they are not bitching despit their descision, than I will oblige them. Have to actually been reading what I said, cause your response is idiotic.

No, Nicholas cage is still John Travolta

then i wouldn't hang around you mate. hence the friendship argument

Referring to someone as their name all the time is clunky, slow, and doesn't stop people from using sir/ma'am.

If you lose an arm are you a different person? If you become blind are you different person? Some i have heard have claimed they are.

so biology doesn't matter in this case

Because those words are polite.

@Deleted User If it were functioning as either, than that’s what it would be, but the organ on a fetus is NOT FUNCTIONING!

it has to be what you started with?

@meratrix what I read was you ramble on about psychology and treatment when all I asked was a question about social decorum. So have you been reading what I've been typing?